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Old 01-24-2009, 01:03 AM     Post subject: Aces on a horrible board #1 (permalink)  
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 I was running 13/7/2 at the time.
villain in MP2 had stats of 84.62/23/2.07 and had been raising quite heavily when there was a decent pot usually with air or rubbish cards, but had gone up from 1$ when i sat down by getting the others to fold. Had seen him showdown 24suited
villain in CO was 77/0//0.19 and was seeing most flops and folding to MP2's bets and raises . He was so short stacked that I wasn't worried about what he had as my intention preflop was to be playing for MP1's stack.
villain in SB was 14/7/0 and had only seen him play and showdown JJ from the SB.
villain in BB was53/13/1 and i'd seen him start at 1$ when i sat down go down to 0.28 in his stack then get stacked and reload back to 1$ before winning $1 .

Poker Stars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (8 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP1 ($1.62)
MP2 ($3.26)
CO ($0.29)
Button ($1.17)
SB ($4.96)
BB ($2.01)
Hero (UTG) ($2)
UTG+1 ($1.36)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A, A
Hero raises to $0.10, 2 folds, MP2 calls $0.10, CO calls $0.10, 1 fold, SB calls $0.09, 1 fold

Intention with the preflop bet was to keep as many in the hand as possible to build the pot.Hoping that MP2 would raise and then I could reraise.

Flop: ($0.42) 8, 10, 9 (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.30, MP2 calls $0.30, CO calls $0.19 (All-In), 1 fold

Hated this flop as it set up a straight draw, thought that the villains ranges were so wide that I was still likely to be ahead. Bet 3/4 pot to get MP2 to come along as i'd seen him call flop bets this size a couple of times already. At least it was rainbow reducing flush risk.

Turn: ($1.21) Q (3 players, 1 all-in)
Hero bets $0.26, MP2 calls $0.26

horrible scare card for me. The 0.26 was to build the pot if I was still ahead, but a raise from the villains would have had me folding.Was this the correct play, should I have checked? MP2 would probably have bet from his previous actions and I'd have had to fold depending on the size of his bet.

River: ($1.73) 10 (3 players, 1 all-in)
Hero bets $0.26, MP2 calls $0.26

another horrible card.betting was with the same reasoning as before. Still don't know whether my bets here and turn were foolish or whether the sizing of the bets i did make were wrong. They were to get some value if i was ahead , and not lose too much if i was behind.

Total pot: $2.25 | Rake: $0.10

edited to get villains positions right ( it was 2am here when i posted )
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Old 01-24-2009, 01:52 AM #2 (permalink)  

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I think I'd have potted the flop, trying to get any draws out, then shut down after the Queen and especially after the Ten on the river. A player who's calling you down and could conceivably have any two cards due to the 77% VPIP, but usually folds to bets and raises must have hit some piece of that flop to stay in, and by the end has you beat with about half (4 Jacks, 2 Tens) of the cards that would have compelled him to call. I could be wrong though, perhaps because his range is so wide it's +EV to let him call you down or possibly fold to a river bet, but I don't think I'd have done it.

A bit confused though, you say MP2 was short stacked, but he had the second most money on the table, and you said that you bet 3/4's to bring MP1 along when he's not in the hand anymore?
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Old 01-24-2009, 08:24 AM #3 (permalink)  
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 oops, corrected the villains postions now and thanks for spotting the errror.
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Old 01-24-2009, 09:04 AM #4 (permalink)  
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Old 01-24-2009, 04:01 PM #5 (permalink)  
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This is why A/A is such a scary hand. Sure you want to build the pot, but I'm with the others, after that flop, I'd be looking at an all-in or something close to it to get anyone chasing anything off the pot. Of course, there is the possibility that someone hit the straight on the flop with a J/Q (which likely would have called your pre-flop raise).

I definately would not have bet after that turn. Check it and see what the other guy does. Give him a chance to raise. You've been raising all along giving someone a perfect opportunity to slow play a straight. My money is on, if someone hit that straight, they did it on the flop.
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Old 01-24-2009, 05:42 PM #6 (permalink)  
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 I had MP2 down as playing any two cards so roughly a 1 in 6 chance that he had the Jack.If he didn't have the Jack and did have the ten he would be scared that I had the Jack . This was the line I was taking specifically against this opponent.If it had been the SB I was up against I would definately have had to shut down and reluctantly fold to any raise or bets from him after the turn Q came.
I'd already had to fold pocket Kings earlier in the session after an Ace on the flop and two of them showed Ace rag which I think was the hand in which MP2 stacked BB
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