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thizzSantaCruz
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12-21-2006, 08:01 PM
Post subject: abundance of nits swarming PS 50NLHE
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Full House
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I recently joined PS about 2 monthes ago and was in love with the site. It was not compareable to paradise poker my old stomping grounds, but the interface was good and the fish were everywhere. Within the last 2 monthes it seems as if the player base has shifted and now all I see are nitty 14/6 people folding at the flop. It is becoming frustrating, I just played 150 hands for an amazing profit of 10 cents.
I will be able to find a decent table at first but give that table 15 minutes and before you know it all the nit regulars will be there folding every single hand and only playing the stone cold nuts.
Does anyone have suggestions for some sites with a more dynamic player base?
I think PS should charge nits a 10% rake to discourage the paying style.
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djzcko
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All of the donks are spending their $ on Christmas presents. Just be patient..they will be back.
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swiggidy
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I disagree completely. Work on your table selection. Yesterday 12pm EST I was at a table with 2 - 60/5 and 2 - 45/10.
I wanted to cry because I couldn't stay and play longer
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mixchange
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Just remember players with low flop % often have great implied odds. Play sc's against them.
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Miffed22001
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Originally Posted by swiggidy
I disagree completely. Work on your table selection. Yesterday 12pm EST I was at a table with 2 - 60/5 and 2 - 45/10.
I wanted to cry because I couldn't stay and play longer
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i disagree completly and continue to post once a week that anyone playing less than 100nl on pokerstars is losing money.
Practically every other game on the web is softer than stars, even if it has had an influx of donks from party etc.
Shop around and findout what else is on offer. Bodog has to be the number 1 site for anyone playing 50nl at this time IMO.
People get attached to stars because of the software and support. My opinion is still like WTF!!!!?!?! Doesnt money > interface and cashout speed?
Never mind their bonuses are practically nonexistant anymore.
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zenbitz
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FullTilt 50NL is goot. Mostly weak/tight, some multi/table nits, the occasional donk meister.
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martindcx1e
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12-21-2006, 11:39 PM
Post subject: Re: abundance of nits swarming PS 50NLHE
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Originally Posted by thizzSantaCruz
I recently joined PS about 2 monthes ago and was in love with the site. It was not compareable to paradise poker my old stomping grounds, but the interface was good and the fish were everywhere. Within the last 2 monthes it seems as if the player base has shifted and now all I see are nitty 14/6 people folding at the flop. It is becoming frustrating, I just played 150 hands for an amazing profit of 10 cents.
I will be able to find a decent table at first but give that table 15 minutes and before you know it all the nit regulars will be there folding every single hand and only playing the stone cold nuts.
Does anyone have suggestions for some sites with a more dynamic player base?
I think PS should charge nits a 10% rake to discourage the paying style. |
- 150 hands means nothing
- bodog is the softest (for americans at least)
- there are advantages (as well as obvious disadvantages) to playing with nits
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Wikipedia is the best thing ever. Anyone in the world can write anything they want about any subject. So you know you are getting the best possible information.
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Lukie
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raise preflop, bet flop = free money
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swiggidy
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+7BB/100 at PS 15k hands
-3BB/100 at FT 8k hands
small sample, but it's all I've got. PS 4 swiggidy FTW
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by mixchange
Just remember players with low flop % often have great implied odds. Play sc's against them.
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You don't beat many nits with implied odds. If you think really deep abount their lines you can find some great effective odds against them.
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thizzSantaCruz
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12-22-2006, 05:54 AM
Post subject: Re: abundance of nits swarming PS 50NLHE
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Full House
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- 150 hands means nothing
- bodog is the softest (for americans at least)
- there are advantages (as well as obvious disadvantages) to playing with nits
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I am not using 150 hands solely for this observation. The trend has been going on for a while. 150 was just my stats from todays session.
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I disagree completely. Work on your table selection. Yesterday 12pm EST I was at a table with 2 - 60/5 and 2 - 45/10.
I wanted to cry because I couldn't stay and play longer
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I am not saying the maniacs do not exist, but when they are at a table they seem to bust out very quickly. Usually I will join a table that looks good fromt he PS stats in the lobby, but within 10-20 minutes it turns intot he normal mutli-table nit fest.[/quote]
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Originally Posted by mixchange
Just remember players with low flop % often have great implied odds. Play sc's against them.
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You don't beat many nits with implied odds. If you think really deep abount their lines you can find some great effective odds against them. |
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mixchange
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any hints? or are the 'nits' at 50NL I'm playing just more likely to stack off than at higher limits?
only thing I can think of you are referring to is that by their nature they have narrow hand ranges, and you can exploit that knowledge, plus they are more easily pushed off flops if they don't have anything. fold to strength, earn slowly on cbets.
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swiggidy
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look for 2+ shorties at the table
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Alexos
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Originally Posted by swiggidy
look for 2+ shorties at the table
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i love this..also dont go to tables with 2 or more ppl with 200bb+, chances are at least one of them is good...
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DonkDonk
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Table selection could be a problem for you. One thing i've noticed on Bodog, is when the occasional table with a nice pot average, and high % players seeing flops is present on the main screen, all of the Bodog rounders flock to get on the wait list. Therefore, after the one or two donkeys bust out, all the regulars on the wait list takes the donkey's seat, which in turn creates a super tight table.
Bodog is decent but not the best. You can only 3-table at once. While the aesthetics of the software are nice, the site crashes consistently...glitch after glitch. Along with bodog's small player base, at any given table there are typically 2-3 regulars. Bodog also is not compatable with poker traker and similar software.
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The flop, turn and river can change everything. It is important to remain objective and remember that the overall goal is to win, not win this specific hand
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garveya1
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I think a big issue right now is people are just being tight because of the holidays. People don't really want to lose money right before the holidays. I used to play at bodog and I have a friend that plays there now, he actually says 50NL at bodog is tighter than usual too.
Bodog just isn't worth it in my opinion, I switched to stars from bodog and it has been the best decision I've made in my online experience. Bodog software is terrible, the regulars are everywhere, and you can only play 3 tables. As nitty as you might think PS is, you will STILL make more money with 4+ more slightly nittier tables than you will at bodog's max amount of 3 tables.
Give it some time and things will get better. (and maybe try and be even more selective when choosing tables)
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Beck
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Join Date: Aug 2006
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Poker stars: they just iffered a 25% reload bonus, up to $150, plus they are giving away money every 1,000,000 hands which seams to happen pretty often. This has flocked a bunch of players and the tables look loose to me on pokerstars, lots of calling stations consitantly calling your cbet even with nothing.
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