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FateAver
Old 07-11-2009, 12:44 PM     Post subject: AA vs pair on board #1 (permalink)  
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I'm still confuse how to use poker tool until now so I will post a hand like this

BB is a chip dominator in this table , after 20 hands.. look like he play with anykind of card , I use slow play here

PokerStars Game #30303168506: Hold'em No Limit ($0.02/$0.05)
Table 'May' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: BB ($51.55 in chips)
Seat 3: Me ($3.61 in chips)
Seat 4: MP1 ($2.14 in chips)
Seat 5: Button($4.06 in chips)
Seat 6: SB ($10.76 in chips)
SB : posts small blind $0.02
BB : posts big blind $0.05

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Me [As Ac]
Me: raises $0.05 to $0.10
MP1: folds
Button: folds
SB: calls $0.08
BB: calls $0.05
*** FLOP *** [Jd Qc Qh]
SB: checks
BB: bets $0.25
Me: ???
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Old 07-11-2009, 02:47 PM #2 (permalink)  
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why are you minraising
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Old 07-12-2009, 12:18 AM     Post subject: Re: AA vs pair on board #3 (permalink)  
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I use slow play here
Dude you are atleast two weeks away from the fancy moves. Forget about slow playing for a long time. When you have the cards bet the cards.
"You start the game with a full pot o’ luck and an empty pot o’ experience...
The object is to fill the pot of experience before you empty the pot of luck."

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Old 07-12-2009, 07:25 AM #4 (permalink)  
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Because looking from my opponent habit , he will surely call me so I'm playing wait and see . since I experience losing with AA high bet manytimes for last 2 days ,
(6$ with reraise preflop with AA vs JJ and JJ hit a set)
my BR is just 90$ now

and here is the rest of this hand


*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Me [As Ac]
Me: raises $0.05 to $0.10
MP1: folds
Button: folds
SB: calls $0.08
BB: calls $0.05
*** FLOP *** [Jd Qc Qh]
SB: checks
BB: bets $0.25
Me: calls $0.25

*** TURN *** [Jd Qc Qh] [4c]
BB: bets $0.25
Me: calls $0.25
*** RIVER *** [Jd Qc Qh 4c] [Jc]
BB: checks
Me: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
BB: shows [6s Qs] (a full house, Queens full of Jacks)
Me: shows [As Ac] (two pair, Aces and Queens)
BB collected $1.25 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $1.30 | Rake $0.05
Board [Jd Qc Qh 4c Jc
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Old 07-12-2009, 10:14 AM #5 (permalink)  
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I think it's fine, I'd fold river if he bet
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Old 07-12-2009, 12:44 PM #6 (permalink)  
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Because looking from my opponent habit , he will surely call me so I'm playing wait and see . since I experience losing with AA high bet manytimes for last 2 days ,
(6$ with reraise preflop with AA vs JJ and JJ hit a set)
my BR is just 90$ now
this is dumb. people will call much more pre and you'd be exploiting this more by betting more with nut hands. dont be results oriented and for god sake dont use a few bad beats to justify slowplaying when people will stack off for 3 streets of pure value with middle pair no kicker.
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Old 07-12-2009, 01:20 PM #7 (permalink)  
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If you have AA, then you will win about 80% of the time, if you are against one other player. This percentage reduces the more players there are in the pot. So with AA you want to raise and re-raise pre-flop because:

a) you want to build a big pot, because you will win it 80% of the time; and
b) you want to reduce the players who see the flop and get hands like Qs6s that can suck out on you to fold.

If you had raised more in the hand above, you might have got the Qs6s to fold and have won the pot. When it was the BB's turn, there was 25c in the pot and he only had to put in 5c to call, so he was getting 5 - 1 odds. He was right to call even against aces.

If the flop had come Kc7d2s, he probably would have folded and you would have won a small pot. As it was, his 5c investment gained him $1.20. You were lucky not to lose more as he was only losing to JJ on the river and he should have bet. Letting people see a cheap flop when you have AA is a really bad idea.
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