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Old 01-08-2009, 05:15 AM     Post subject: AA 3-bet #1 (permalink)  
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Guy had played 3 hands

he was 100/100/3 Inf aggression

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Button ($1.74)
Hero (SB) ($7.32)
BB ($1.83)
UTG ($2.65)
UTG+1 ($4.78)
MP1 ($4.95)
MP2 ($5.72)
MP3 ($1.87)
CO ($12.41)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A, A
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.05, 1 fold, MP2 raises to $0.20, MP3 calls $0.20, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.80, 2 folds, MP2 calls $0.60, 1 fold

Flop: ($1.90) 8, 2, Q (2 players)
Hero bets $1.25, MP2 raises to $4.92 (All-In), Hero calls $3.67

Turn: ($11.74) 8 (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($11.74) 10 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $11.74 | Rake: $0.55
The older I get, the more I start wondering; Just what in the hell is going on here?
 
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Old 01-08-2009, 05:23 AM #2 (permalink)  
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Old 01-08-2009, 05:24 AM #3 (permalink)  
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probably me being results oriented.

I've just found that getting it AI on the flop costs me more money in this situation than wins me.
The older I get, the more I start wondering; Just what in the hell is going on here?
 
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Old 01-08-2009, 05:27 AM #4 (permalink)  
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I mean his range here is pretty much AA, KK, and QQ or poorly played lower sets right?

just cuz he's 100/100/inf over 3 hands doesn't mean he's not functionally retarded.
The older I get, the more I start wondering; Just what in the hell is going on here?
 
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Old 01-08-2009, 07:53 AM #5 (permalink)  
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obviously if you think your beat you should fold however i do not evaluate his range to be as tight as yours

your range:

Hand 0: 42.481% 39.36% 03.13% 6234 495.00 { AhAs }
Hand 1: 57.519% 54.39% 03.13% 8616 495.00 { QQ+, 88, 22 }

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my range:

Hand 0: 64.557% 63.09% 01.47% 21235 495.00 { AhAs }
Hand 1: 35.443% 33.97% 01.47% 11435 495.00 { QQ+, 88, 22, AQs, KQs, AQo, KQo }

this is assuming he is only doing this for 'value' assuming that he is never bluffing in this spot. obviously you can drop AQ/KQ or add stuff like QJ etc.

i will say this tho that i think my range is a much better place to start from than yours is. obviously the tighter the villain is the more appropriate your range becomes. etc etc
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Old 01-08-2009, 08:12 AM #6 (permalink)  
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 Fwiw, this is a call even if we use Ragnar's nitty range of QQ+, 88, 22. After villain's shove the pot is $8.07. Ragnar is needing to call $3.67. Therefore, hero only needs ~31% equity to make this call. Against the above range you have 42% equity. Fish-pump call imo.
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How can you even think about folding AA at NL10 in a 3bet pot after you have cbet
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I think it would be a losing play to fold in that situation. Without any reads on what your opponent will shove with,
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Old 01-08-2009, 04:41 PM #10 (permalink)  
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How can you even think about folding AA at NL10 in a 3bet pot after you have cbet
Heh, so true.
This board is extremely dry too. In a 3-bet pot with AA at a low blind level against an unknown but apparent spew tard your best not folding here.

He's completely unknown other than the 3 hands he came in strong on. And if this means this is the fourth in a row he's played he's either caught a miracle run of big cards or he's just a maniac. Judging by the blind level, I'd say the maniac conclusion is more realistic.

He's probably just pissed you re-raised him pf if he's played his first 3 hands as the aggressor. I have a feeling he sucked out on you with QT or something in which case there's nothing you can do.
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Old 01-08-2009, 04:53 PM #11 (permalink)  
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How can you even think about folding AA at NL10 in a 3bet pot after you have cbet
LOL. I can't think of folding at 10nl, but this is 5nl.

Also I got it in AA vs QQQ on the flop.
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Also I got it in AA vs QQQ on the flop.
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Old 01-08-2009, 06:57 PM #13 (permalink)  
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Also I got it in AA vs QQQ on the flop.
[ ] Matters.
of course it matters, because if he had got it in vs. AQ this thread would not exist!
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Also I got it in AA vs QQQ on the flop.
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of course it matters, because if he had got it in vs. AQ this thread would not exist!
I el oh el'd sir.
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