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trilerian
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10-17-2009, 09:01 PM
Post subject: 99 in the sb.
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Straight
Join Date: Nov 2008
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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (8 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
MP2 ($2.23)
CO ($3.18)
Button ($1.21)
Hero (SB) ($2.18)
BB ($1.04)
UTG ($1.60)
UTG+1 ($1.10)
MP1 ($4.89)
Preflop: Hero is SB with  , 
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.02, MP1 calls $0.02, 2 folds, Button calls $0.02, Hero bets $0.12, 1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $0.30, 2 folds, Hero?
Villain is running 32/15 over 100 hands, and plays extremely aggro on the flop and turn. I can't call for set value as there is no moneys for this, I can't call cause I have the better hand (which I think I do) cause any bet pretty much commits me after the flop, so I think my only options are shove or fold. For ranging, I guesstimate 22-88, and maybe AT, AJ, KJ. The unpaired hands I am having a hard time with here, I think he is raising any good A pre and I am sure he is raising TT-KK pre. So this could either be a bad tricky play with AA or a bad play with small PP's, or maybe a good play with small PP's if I fold, but.. I shove over, he folds. He puts in the chatbox "it was close but I think you had me, I had you on AA, KK". Is my range for villain good, or do you think I made the wrong move and folded out TT, JJ? Mind you, I was not raising as a bluff, I thought I was ahead.
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Mizark
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Join Date: Sep 2009
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limp raise in UTG could mean big pair. I would either fold or just call and try to peel a set. If it does hit, more than likely youd get paid off.
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thedarwinfish
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Join Date: Sep 2009
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With the stacks what they are your only option there was to push or fold imo. You're right that he doesn't have the money behind him to make it worth a call. If he was fully stacked, it'd definitely be worth a call.
What stats are you running? Or what would you say your table image was at the time? If you're running a conservative image on the table and if he's paying attention he may lay down a TT or JJ hand to your push.
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Jan 2008
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Easy fold. You are likely never ahead. You can't call for set odds due to stack sizes. You can't shove because you don't have the needed equity against his range, and no fold equity. Fold is pretty trivial.
If you had JJ/QQ then it would be a gay spot depending on villain.
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Outlaw
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Full House
Join Date: Nov 2007
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Snap fold. If he had 100bbs you can set mine
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d0zer
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Outlaw
Snap fold. If he had 100bbs you can set mine
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yes, and no no no sir.
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Pelion
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 3,206
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Mizark
just call and try to peel a set.
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This is so bad given the stack sizes. If you stack him every time you hit and fold when you dont you are still losing money.
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gabe: Ive dropped almost 100k in the past 35 days.
bigspenda73: But how much did you win?
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sarbox68
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Full House
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: wondering where the 3 extra chairs at my 6max table came from
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I haven't played FR for a long time, but from what I remember an EP limp/raise pre-flop is never a good thing. Esp when you raised big vs multiple callers OOP -- usually a sign that you've got something maybe even a little stronger than you actually have. You can't set mine against this guy, so it's an easy fold. Can't imagine you'd be a in a rush to stack off w/ 99 at FR, esp when vil has 1/4 of his stack in the middle so you prolly got like zero fold equity in shoving.
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rpm
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: learnin'
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easy fold for me without reads that he might be doing this with low pairs and without deep enough stacks to setmine IP. i've never seen anyone who is not one of those hyper aggro players looking to lose as many stacks as possible as fast as possible (you would have noticed if he was one of these guys over 100 hands) do this without kings or aces at the micro stakes.
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