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Old 04-02-2009, 04:12 AM     Post subject: 8h9h in the SB 10NL #1 (permalink)  
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I just remember that MP2 had been pretty tight and not opening too many pots, I had been sitting for just over an hour.

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MP2 ($10.35)
CO ($9)
Button ($12.40)
Hero (SB) ($9.85)
BB ($23.45)
UTG ($11.30)
MP1 ($9.25)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 8, 9
2 folds, MP2 bets $0.30, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.25, BB calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.90) 6, 3, 4 (3 players)
Hero's plan is ???


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Old 04-02-2009, 04:31 AM #2 (permalink)  
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To go back in time and fold PF.

Pretty much whatever you do, your hand is going to be faceup.
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Old 04-02-2009, 04:57 AM #3 (permalink)  
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Yeah just play these types of hands IP unless villain is suppppper nitty and gives you insane odds. As played def. c/c flop.
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Old 04-02-2009, 05:08 AM #4 (permalink)  
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c/c as played

fold preflop. we're looking to play these hands when

1) lots of people are in the pot
2) villain raises infrequently indicating his current hand is at the top of his range
3) position
4) position
 
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Old 04-02-2009, 06:28 AM #5 (permalink)  
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Suited connectors aren't great out of position since you're usually flopping a draw. Unless you're willing to play your draws aggressively, you shouldn't play these hands in the blinds. I play pretty laggy, so I do defend with suited connectors. However, I balance my range by cold calling raises with my premium hands too in the blinds too(I don't usually 3bet unless there's multiple callers or a bunch of loose players left that are likely to call). The lines I take with my overpairs and draws are usually the same. If I have a big draw, I like to play it like I have a set. For this hand, I might double barrel this, or maybe c/c bet turn, it really depends on the villain and if you have any reads on him.
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Old 04-02-2009, 02:44 PM #6 (permalink)  

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I would of folded this pre-flop unless I could of just limped in.
On the flop, I'd c/c as long as I had the odds.
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Old 04-02-2009, 02:56 PM #7 (permalink)  
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For this hand, I might double barrel this, or maybe c/c bet turn, it really depends on the villain and if you have any reads on him.
by double barrel do you mean donking the flop and then betting the turn regardless of what comes out? i see what you mean by that laggy image. if you want to merge your draw range with your nuts range, i'm much more likely to c/r the flop and check the turn if the flush doesn't complete then to not even give villain an OPPORTUNITY to give me a free card or two.
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Old 04-02-2009, 05:15 PM #8 (permalink)  
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I don't like check raising the flop as we risk about the same amount of chips as we do betting the flop and turn, but by 2 barreling, you usually get it to the river. If you try to draw this way every time you're out of position, you'd be a check raising monkey, and you'd usually risk far too much money to win a little. Check raising with a draw would lose you money in the long run.

On low flops like this, I'll fight for the pot. The villain usually has two overcards and flops like this hits your range pretty hard. I'll bet most turn cards, but the card I'm most reluctant to bet would be an ace. If he's calling with two overcards, he usually has an ace.
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Old 04-02-2009, 10:17 PM #9 (permalink)  
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I'll bet most turn cards, but the card I'm most reluctant to bet would be an ace. If he's calling with two overcards, he usually has an ace.
I would extend this to all of broadway, actually, though this is dependent on what you really think villain's raising range is.

But nonetheless, a flop of three low cards, two suited, against a villain who may have overcards can be a tremendous opportunity. Even if that Villain has an overpair, he may be scared of the flush and the straight. And if the Villian just has overcards, he's going to afraid of someone in the blinds catching a piece of the flop as well as the flush and straight.

Yes, you're out of position, but if you want to try some loose-aggressive moves, this is a nice situation for it.
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Old 04-02-2009, 10:31 PM #10 (permalink)  
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Re-raise pre-flop.
 
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