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hangchiong

12-05-2008, 08:51 PM Post subject: 67s,flopped a straight,river 4 card flush

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villain was aggro.playing mostly in position,but this hand was just crazy,i just couldnt call the river bet,im on tilt after this hand.
probably i could check the turn,and look for a cheap showdown and trying to control the pot.

Full Tilt Poker Game #9338257945: Table CR - HyperAggrDonk - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 16:44:29 ET - 2008/12/05
Seat 1: ericb45 ($33.85)
Seat 2: hangchiong ($9.50)
Seat 4: howie1959 ($4)
Seat 5: Reddy Red7 ($2.55)
Seat 6: B_B_Kings ($10.15)
Reddy Red7 posts the small blind of $0.05
B_B_Kings posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to hangchiong [7c 6c]
ericb45 calls $0.10
hangchiong calls $0.10
Reddy Red7 calls $0.05
B_B_Kings checks
*** FLOP *** [Th 8d 9h]
Reddy Red7 checks
B_B_Kings bets $0.40
ericb45 raises to $0.80
hangchiong raises to $1.80
Reddy Red7 folds
B_B_Kings has 15 seconds left to act
B_B_Kings folds
ericb45 calls $1
*** TURN *** [Th 8d 9h] [7h]
ericb45 checks
hangchiong bets $3.20
ericb45 calls $3.20
*** RIVER *** [Th 8d 9h 7h] [6h]
ericb45 bets $28.75, and is all in
hangchiong: that just sucks
hangchiong has 15 seconds left to act
hangchiong has requested TIME
hangchiong adds $0.50
hangchiong folds
Uncalled bet of $28.75 returned to ericb45
ericb45 mucks
ericb45 wins the pot ($9.80)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $10.80 | Rake $1
Board: [Th 8d 9h 7h 6h]
Seat 1: ericb45 collected ($9.80), mucked
Seat 2: hangchiong (button) folded on the River
Seat 4: howie1959 is sitting out
Seat 5: Reddy Red7 (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 6: B_B_Kings (big blind) folded on the Flop

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Keith

12-05-2008, 09:24 PM

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I would have said you were vulnerable from the flop. any J or any two hearts would be staying in there with lots of possible draws available and your hand was never going to improve . On the turn you are just giving your money to any of these people and anyone who stayed in with Ah ,Kh or Qh now have a draw as well.
depending on your reads , it was either a case of all in on flop to price out the drawing hands or go careful . the flopwas a real scare card and i would say its then time to check it down .

I would be really interested in the experienced players analysis of my analysis.

Parasurama

12-05-2008, 09:35 PM

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With the dumb end of the straight you need to be raising the flop bet at least 3x, and I would suggest 4x. You need to get value from sets/2pair while forcing out the draws that will crush you if they hit. As played I would have just checked the turn and folded the river. The 7h is the absolute worst card for you on the turn and it's very likely that it hit your opponent since you didn't force him to define his hand on the flop by raising an appropriate amount. The low end of the straight is often not good or will not be good by the river in limped multi-way pots so you have to force your opponents to define their hands and make it incorrect for the draws that beat you to call by raising big. You also need to know when to give up, when the 7h hits on the turn, the value of your hand plummets drastically.

12-05-2008, 09:36 PM

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raise pot on the flop imo the guy's getting like 3-to-1 he'll call with the smallest piece even stupid crap like j high one card flush draw

a500lbgorilla

12-05-2008, 10:59 PM

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I would tend not the bet the turn. I would always bet it smaller. You have to fold the river. Sick shove if he doesn't have the straight but the bottom line is you either split or lose and he can have a better straight very frequently.

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12-05-2008, 11:09 PM

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yeah I was going to say that but then again maybe a fourflush pays us off on the turn so I don't know
it depends heavily on the villain's calling range on the turn

but yeah, smaller would be better

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