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Old 05-04-2010, 11:57 AM     Post subject: 5nl - Suited connectors in position vs TAG #1 (permalink)  
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 Villain is 21/15/29 over 210 hands. My reads on him are pretty much nil other than noticing he obviously has decent stats.

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MP ($1.86)
Hero (CO) ($5.41)
Button ($4.06)
SB ($3.12)
BB ($10.37)
UTG ($5.35)

Preflop: Hero is CO with ,
2 folds, Hero bets $0.20, 1 fold, SB calls $0.18, 1 fold

His range here is going to be something like 22+,A9s+,K9s+,Q9s+,J9s+,T9s,ATo+,KTo+,QTo+,JTo

Flop: ($0.45) , , (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.35, SB raises to $1.10, Hero calls $0.75

With this raise, I guess he's either trying it with air (as his check suggested), or his range would be something like: JJ-TT,33,ATs,KTs,QTs,JTs,T9s,ATo,KTo,QTo,JToall of which crush me. (I now see the error of calling)

Turn: ($2.65) (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.50, SB raises to $1.82 (All-In), Hero calls $0.32

In retrospect, this bet was obviously dumb but his second check made me think he was trying it on. A lot of 5nl players I've come across take lines like this with nothing. The only aces I have in his range fwiw now is AA.

River: ($6.29) (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $6.29 | Rake: $0.30
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Old 05-04-2010, 01:01 PM #2 (permalink)  
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 With no reads the flop is a clear fold, anyone check this back?

Turn bet is essentially a bluff as you rep {TT,33,AT and maybe 3x}.

Basically if someone with his stats c/raise a flop this dry(no draws) then it's usually a monster.
 
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Old 05-04-2010, 01:17 PM #3 (permalink)  

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 with all due respect you started out good but ended up butchering the hand. The pre-flop raise is good . The flop bet is good also checking back is bad because you get call by A high s lot. Once he c-raises you need to fold. Since you called check back the turn
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Old 05-04-2010, 01:41 PM #4 (permalink)  
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 flop cbet is fine as it gets called by middle pairs a decent amount and protects your hand against non-T broadways. there are only 2 combos between TT and 33 so i feel he's repping really thin and i don't really know if he plays 33 or TT this fast? if he were 100bb deep i would probably consider calling the checkraise, but i think he's pretty strong here and it leaves him only 3/4 of a PSB in his stack on the turn. how much of JJ+ do you expect to be 3bet pre? any 3bet stats?
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Old 05-04-2010, 02:19 PM #5 (permalink)  
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 Well, it is true that the board is dry, and I know this is micro, but what is he repping 33, tt? or is he doing this with a bunch of 3x? A3?34?. The turn is a sucky card, but I think a check back is better.



BTW, what is the third number 3 bet or or AF?
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Old 05-04-2010, 03:21 PM #6 (permalink)  
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 It's a weird board for him to c/r for sure, but since he's only 60 bb deep this is a spot where he can be c/r a lot of better Ts for value. He can also be spazzing some random pair though or have air from time to time. If you call the flop you're pretty much deciding to stack off. I think folding is likely best with this terrible a kicker when he's this shallow and hence will have a less polarsied c/r range on the flop in general - too many combos of better Ts. If we see him spazz this way with 88 here or pairs we can rethink imo.

Turn bet is possibly the worst thing I have ever seen in my life. If he's "trying it on", he'll fold all worse hands that you beat anyway so just check. You're literally just getting it when crushed and not otherwise; just try to get to showdown here. He probably wont fold a T here much at all. There is no reason to bluff when you have this much showdown value and no better hands are folding.

 
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Old 05-04-2010, 06:09 PM #7 (permalink)  
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 your preflop range doesn't make sense without reads. i guess since he's only bought in for 60bb's, he's prolly a fish who's calling here too much, but i'm not going to make hands like K9s and JTo anymore than a possibility. also, what's that third number? AF? 3b? his 3b number's really important here for determining his preflop range because some players never have 99+, AQ+ here, and most villains never have QQ+, AK here.

as for the flop, if this guy seemed more reggy (in other words, if he'd bought in for 100bb's), i'd be more willing to call here 'cause he's repping like TT (if that's even in his range), 33 (one combo) and A3s (2 combos). most regs never c/r w AT here. against a fish, though, i'd expect him to show up with a lot of Tx's that outkick us and i'd expect him to have more random 3x's and overpairs.

once you call the flop, though, betting the turn is a head scratcher
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Old 05-04-2010, 06:43 PM #8 (permalink)  
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Turn bet is possibly the worst thing I have ever seen in my life. If he's "trying it on", he'll fold all worse hands that you beat anyway so just check. You're literally just getting it when crushed and not otherwise; just try to get to showdown here. He probably wont fold a T here much at all. There is no reason to bluff when you have this much showdown value and no better hands are folding.
Yeah, I don't like the turn bet too much. Just try to get to cheap showdown here, the ace saved you, if he had a ten, with a better kicker.
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