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Imthenewfish
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07-23-2010, 06:02 PM
Post subject: 5nl linecheck JJ utg facing 3b
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villain is on two of my tables and is running 35/30 over 60 hands. villains 3bet 0/25. yaawn pointed out that if he really is only 3betting KK+ then I can probably setmine getting 13 to 1. I just feel like I didn't really know where i was at anywhere in this hand. river is obv a b/f.
No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
CO ($15.30)
Button ($9.83)
SB ($8.92)
BB ($17.12)
Hero (UTG) ($5.49)
MP ($5.53)
Preflop: Hero is UTG with J , J
Hero bets $0.20, 1 fold, CO raises $0.60, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.40
Flop: ($1.27) 5, 9, 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $1, Hero calls $1
Turn: ($3.27) 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks
River: ($3.27) 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $1.60
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PlayToWin
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I thin you should have bet the Turn about $2.25. The River would probably be a check/fold.
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Imthenewfish
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PlayToWin
I thin you should have bet the Turn about $2.25. Then checked behind River.
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I'm oop so i can't check behind river..
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Imthenewfish
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PlayToWin
I thin you should have bet the Turn about $2.25. The River would probably be a check/fold.
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reason for wanting to donk so much on turn?
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Keith
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with his stats and 0/25 3bet I'd be thinking along the lines KK,AA,AK as his 3betting range unless he showed down otherwise. I think I'd check call up to half pot here as half his 3betting combinations are AK. Betting the river here will fold out those AK combos that you beat and let him shove over with his AA KK. If you check the river , it lets him bluff with his AK and if he shoves you saved yourself the $1.60.
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PlayToWin
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Yea, i edited my first post.....
I think it's a strong line to take, since you called the near-pot flop bet. I think villian bets the flop, when checked to, a lot as a bluff. We want to bet enough on the Turn to rep a strong hand. We can get villian to fold overcards. You do have a good hand, so we could call it a semi-bluff.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Imthenewfish
reason for wanting to donk so much on turn?
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The pot is $3.27, so $2.25 is not that big of a bet, imo.
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Keith
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PlayToWin
I thin you should have bet the Turn about $2.25. The River would probably be a check/fold.
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once he bets 2.25 on the turn theres only about $1.66 left behind and a $8.77 pot so virtually committed to calling the river as well getting 5 or 6 to 1 to call a river bet
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Originally Posted by Keith_MM
once he bets 2.25 on the turn theres only about $1.66 left behind and a $8.77 pot so virtually committed to calling the river as well getting 5 or 6 to 1 to call a river bet
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That's a very good point. I just glanced at the stack sizes and, at a glance, I thought everyone was deep.
So, given stack size of OP, Keith is probably right.
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I hate to disagree with players that are better than me, but, even with wonky stats and weirdly absent 3-betting range, 60 hands just isn't enough for me to narrow things down to KK and AA, even AK, KK+ seems too narrow. 60 hands is tarded, I've probably run 35/30 over 60 hands before with 0% 3-bet and I play full ring and am a retardo-nit.
With this in mind I'd comment on hand more but I'm at work so hopefully more later.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PlayToWin
The pot is $3.27, so $2.25 is not that big of a bet, imo.
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1.7 bet accomplishes like exactly the same thing as a blocking bet but saves you $0.50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Imthenewfish
1.7 bet accomplishes like exactly the same thing as a blocking bet but saves you $0.50
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You might be right. You could be wrong. 
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Looks fine to me though I assume your bet on the river is hoping for a call from AK? You might get that I guess. I'd probably bet like $1 since that is even more likely to be called by AK. If you think he only has AA and KK at this point though then obv check.
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[00:29] <daven> dc, why not check turn behind
[00:30] <DC> daven
[00:30] <DC> on my hand?
[00:30] <daven> yep
[00:30] <DC> because I am drunk
[00:30] <daven> nice reason
[00:30] <daven> no further questions
[00:30] <yaawn> ^^Lol
Problem officer...?
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Imthenewfish
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Donachello
Looks fine to me though I assume your bet on the river is hoping for a call from AK? You might get that I guess. I'd probably bet like $1 since that is even more likely to be called by AK. If you think he only has AA and KK at this point though then obv check.
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I definately think he would bet the turn with kings or aces, but I'm not really sure if it's safe to assume his preflop range is KK+,AK
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