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WeiJie
Old 06-28-2009, 03:43 PM     Post subject: This in 5 months ? #1 (permalink)  

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Hello

Well printed some guides of and gunna start playing online next week. Probs gunna 2 table 10nl or 25nl i dunno yet but wil deposit around $500 wot do u guys think ?

Was thinking I'm gunna get to 100nl by end of November, so I have 5 months to grind up to around $2k if I go by 20 buy ins. Do you think this is possible or am I aiming too high ??
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Old 06-28-2009, 03:51 PM #2 (permalink)  
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just read an article saying that 20 buyins isn't enough for a proper good shot. Also, how good are you at poker? How much do you know? Have you read the beginners digest? I don't really know what to say here. if you're playing 10nl, $500 is enough.
<JustinSKS> Tha'ts why I fold my 33 to 72o, because 7 high beats, 1 pair, donk.

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Old 06-28-2009, 03:58 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Old 06-28-2009, 04:00 PM #4 (permalink)  
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oh, and, forget about the money, focus on getting better
<JustinSKS> Tha'ts why I fold my 33 to 72o, because 7 high beats, 1 pair, donk.

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Old 06-28-2009, 04:02 PM #5 (permalink)  

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oh, and, forget about the money, focus on getting better
was gunna 2 table 25nl but i fink its too risky for $500
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Old 06-28-2009, 04:07 PM #6 (permalink)  
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oh, and, forget about the money, focus on getting better
was gunna 2 table 25nl but i fink its too risky for $500

Also, how good are you at poker? How much do you know? Have you read the beginners digest? I don't really know what to say here.

and, again, don't think about the money or how soon you'll be able to move up to 100nl or anything. just focus on getting better, play some and post up your hands here. do you have poker tracker or hold 'em manager? read the beginners digest, it's good for starting off.
<JustinSKS> Tha'ts why I fold my 33 to 72o, because 7 high beats, 1 pair, donk.

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Old 06-28-2009, 04:24 PM #7 (permalink)  
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You most likely cannot beat 10nl right now. Make a small (less than $100) deposit into PokerStars and start playing 2nl then go from there.
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oh, and, forget about the money, focus on getting better
was gunna 2 table 25nl but i fink its too risky for $500

Also, how good are you at poker? How much do you know? Have you read the beginners digest? I don't really know what to say here.

and, again, don't think about the money or how soon you'll be able to move up to 100nl or anything. just focus on getting better, play some and post up your hands here. do you have poker tracker or hold 'em manager? read the beginners digest, it's good for starting off.
Hey thanks, yea I'm planning on reading the beginners digest definitely reading the first 2 sections in there and then pick some important ones and read them too.

well before I joined a forum like this i put $50 on FTP and ran it up to $125 cashed out not played real money since. but now i know about some about bankroll so I should be OK I know roughly what hands to play and in what position so I know about how to play a TAG ish game...

but im bit confuse about some bits on bankroll. Say I have $500 and have 20 buyins for 25nl exactly and i got by having at least 20 buyins for a limit does that man I can only 1 table 25nl or can I 2 table it aswell if u get what i mean ?

I will be getting poker tracker.
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Old 06-28-2009, 04:33 PM #9 (permalink)  
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I don't think two-tabling needs a bigger bankroll, you just need to make sure that you're good enough and familiar enough with the poker concepts so that you can handle the faster pace of play. maybe a slightly bigger BR would be nice I guess.

and listen to spoon, he's a poker god. (so those times when you pray for the flush on the river, he's the one who you better hope is in a good mood..). 2nl is tha place to start, especially if you're new to general poker strategy.
<JustinSKS> Tha'ts why I fold my 33 to 72o, because 7 high beats, 1 pair, donk.

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Old 06-28-2009, 04:34 PM #10 (permalink)  

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alr8 thanks for all the advise guys
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Old 06-28-2009, 05:00 PM #11 (permalink)  
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If I were you, I'd take the $500 you intend to deposit and deposit only $50 of it. Crush 2NL (easy, easy monies) until you get to $100, then crush 5NL (easy, easy monies) until $200 or something, crush 10NL (easy monies), and so on.

Take the $450 and use it to buy a decent stat tracker such as Pokertracker, the book 'No Limit Hold'em Theory and Practice' by David Sklansky and Ed Miller, and spend the rest on extravagant things like pizzas, alcohol, parties and women.

Pros here are:
- You get to learn as you go along and only risking $2 (at first) to learn crucial lessons that could have cost you $25
- You get more of a sense of achievment when you reach 25NL anyway
- You get ~$400 to spend on pizzas, parties and girls
- When you get to 100NL in November, come play with me and take all my monies.
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Old 06-28-2009, 05:37 PM #12 (permalink)  

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If I were you, I'd take the $500 you intend to deposit and deposit only $50 of it. Crush 2NL (easy, easy monies) until you get to $100, then crush 5NL (easy, easy monies) until $200 or something, crush 10NL (easy monies), and so on.

Take the $450 and use it to buy a decent stat tracker such as Pokertracker, the book 'No Limit Hold'em Theory and Practice' by David Sklansky and Ed Miller, and spend the rest on extravagant things like pizzas, alcohol, parties and women.

Pros here are:
- You get to learn as you go along and only risking $2 (at first) to learn crucial lessons that could have cost you $25
- You get more of a sense of achievment when you reach 25NL anyway
- You get ~$400 to spend on pizzas, parties and girls
- When you get to 100NL in November, come play with me and take all my monies.
lol i love your idea about sepnding the $400 haha

I rekon im gunna start from 10nl cos i have played poker before well since i was 14 now im 19 .. and if i "do" make it to 100nl then i will pm you n we can have a game
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Old 06-28-2009, 06:01 PM #13 (permalink)  
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Same as everyone said...
Deposit the minimum.

You'll figure out why either way... Either by loosing $500, or by going 'oh shoot... still only +$500'
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Old 06-28-2009, 06:24 PM #14 (permalink)  
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and listen to spoon, he's a poker god.
No, I'm not even close.

I do tend to give decent advice at not completely pissing away money though.
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Old 06-28-2009, 06:59 PM #15 (permalink)  
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and listen to spoon, he's a poker god.
No, I'm not even close.

I do tend to give decent advice at not completely pissing away money though.
I'm speaking from the relative perspective of a 2nl newcomer to poker. enjoy the praise until i get to 100nl and see how bad you really are
<JustinSKS> Tha'ts why I fold my 33 to 72o, because 7 high beats, 1 pair, donk.

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Old 06-28-2009, 07:21 PM #16 (permalink)  
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Go ahead and deposit the 500, just stick to brm, if you lose enough money where you have to drop a limit then drop a limit, i tend to agree with what everybody says here about depositing the minimum but maybe instead of that you could deposit enough to start at 5nl so you still could have some left for the woman and pizza. lol
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Old 06-28-2009, 07:32 PM #17 (permalink)  
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$100NL by November with the plan of doing it properly is quite possibly a pipe dream. There are decent small stakes players on this site that couldn't do it. Deposit the $500 if you feel like it but don't play higher than $10NL until you can beat it for a ton of hands.
 
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Old 06-28-2009, 08:09 PM #18 (permalink)  

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$100NL by November with the plan of doing it properly is quite possibly a pipe dream. There are decent small stakes players on this site that couldn't do it. Deposit the $500 if you feel like it but don't play higher than $10NL until you can beat it for a ton of hands.
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Go ahead and deposit the 500, just stick to brm, if you lose enough money where you have to drop a limit then drop a limit, i tend to agree with what everybody says here about depositing the minimum but maybe instead of that you could deposit enough to start at 5nl so you still could have some left for the woman and pizza. lol
ok lmao ! thanks guys I will dep $500 for safty but will definatly griund out on 10nl for at least 30k hands ? and find my leaks fix them wilst im still grinding if im profitable and then move up ?? do u think thats enough ?
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Old 06-28-2009, 08:35 PM #19 (permalink)  
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$100NL by November with the plan of doing it properly is quite possibly a pipe dream. There are decent small stakes players on this site that couldn't do it. Deposit the $500 if you feel like it but don't play higher than $10NL until you can beat it for a ton of hands.
I guess it depends... I was screwing around at the micros for a couple of months, but from the point where I started taking it more seriously - mainly just sticking to proper PF hand selection: I went from 5NL to 100NL in less time than that.

But I still think those time goals are stupid as hell. Just try to play properly.

I don't see how starting with more than the minimum could possibly help you in any way... the thing is: most of the money in poker comes from people who deposit more than the minimum.
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Old 06-28-2009, 11:42 PM #20 (permalink)  
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you will get to 100NL a few months after you learn yourself and learn your opponents
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Old 06-29-2009, 09:13 AM #22 (permalink)  

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I jumped in at 10NL premature and found it hard to adapt- I found starting at 2NL at PS and building alot easier (and a more gradual learning curve).
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Old 06-29-2009, 10:29 AM #23 (permalink)  
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Depends how much you plan to play. If you can't get in at least 25K hands/month plus a few hours/week of off-table time then I reckon getting to 100NL that quick is pretty ambitious for a beginner.
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Old 06-29-2009, 11:41 AM #24 (permalink)  
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i've found that having certain high expectations for myself has been mega -EV. underpromise and over deliver to yourself. you don't need to worry about setting the bar too low or any crap like that because it's a card game if you enjoy it as much as you'll need to to become a 100NL player, then you'll likely be able to go above and beyond. if you expect somehting like 10BB/100 or even like $5 an hour right off the bat then the first time you get stacked with your AA against some a-hole donk, then you're going to go on donk fest and piss all your money away trying to make it up (or at least that's how it worked for me).

goal #1: achieve >0.00BB/100 over 2500 hand sample.

in the meantime dick around on FTR, read a lot of shit, post a lot of shit and you shall learn a lot of shit.

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