4nl- free ride in BB v.s Station

**WeldPhaser** · 08-11-2012 07:22 PM

I only have 30 hands on villain, he is 65/5 and the only other stat i have is he fold to flop c-bet 3/4 times....

I'm pretty sure villain has suititus....

I bet 2/3 on flop, I'm thinkin i should check T'.. should I not vary my T' bet based on board texture??? Cause that's clearly what I do here.

Revolution Gaming Network - $0.04 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: $3.90
CO: $3.85
BTN: $9.27
SB: $3.26
Hero (BB): $4.28
UTG: $2.33

SB posts SB $0.02, Hero posts BB $0.04

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.06) Hero has 7

8

UTG calls $0.04, fold, CO calls $0.04, fold, fold, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.14, 3 players) A

8

7

Hero bets $0.10, UTG calls $0.10, fold

Turn: ($0.34, 2 players) J

Hero bets $0.17, UTG raises to $0.51, ???

**OngBonga** · 08-13-2012 05:56 PM

Maybe bet the turn a tad more, but otherwise I'm playing this the same. Now fold.

**seven-deuce** · 08-13-2012 07:00 PM

I'd bet $0.20 or $0.22 on turn and fold to the raise.

**WeldPhaser** · 08-13-2012 08:49 PM

Originally Posted by seven-deuce

I'd bet $0.20 or $0.22 on turn and fold to the raise.

K, we really can't hate the turn card here v.s. this opp' before the re- ra' right?????

Is villain ever taking this line Ax's, or any worse??? on the T'????

I don't think so...

**seven-deuce** · 08-13-2012 09:04 PM

In my experience when people start re-raising like this in limped pots they always have you beat, flushes straights etc. i believe when you bet the turn your betting for value for sure hoping to get called by a spade or ace rag/jack rag, but i don't think he's ever raising light or trying to bluff here again purely from my own experience. I'd fold every time in this spot in a limped pot.

**Shotglass** · 08-14-2012 04:34 AM

I'm folding...
He continued against your flop c-bet which is out of character for him, so he's got something he likes...Ax,

, 9T and maybe a few other hands that would limp pf;
The J

ott completes a couple different draws so he's unlikely to be making this move with Ax or bluffing.

**rpm** · 08-14-2012 06:41 AM

Originally Posted by OngBonga

definitely bet the turn more, but otherwise I'm playing this the same. Now fold.

+1

**surviva316** · 08-14-2012 01:04 PM

Originally Posted by OngBonga

Definitely bet the flop and turn more, but otherwise I'm playing this the same. Now fold.

+1.5

**bikes** · 08-17-2012 01:42 AM

b/fing the turn bigger is a mistake when you don't know what to do on over 1/3 of rivers

**WeldPhaser** · 08-17-2012 06:27 PM

Originally Posted by Shotglass

so he's unlikely to be making this move with Ax or bluffing.

The only thing that bothers me w/ this hand is that I think he's slightly capable of bluff ra'ing this T'.. Since this hand I've seen him make some huge folds to T/R pressure....

ah meh,...

**Shotglass** · 08-18-2012 02:29 AM

Originally Posted by WeldPhaser

The only thing that bothers me w/ this hand is that I think he's slightly capable of bluff ra'ing this T'.. Since this hand I've seen him make some huge folds to T/R pressure....

ah meh,...

You wrote that he's a station and gave an incredible stat of 65/5, albeit over a tiny sample. When someone who has shown no agression suddenly gets aggressive, it's a BIG warning sign. I'd rather err on the side of caution until I'm positive that he is capable of making that type of move.

**WeldPhaser** · 08-18-2012 02:38 PM

Originally Posted by Shotglass

You wrote that he's a station and gave an incredible stat of 65/5, albeit over a tiny sample. When someone who has shown no agression suddenly gets aggressive, it's a BIG warning sign. I'd rather err on the side of caution until I'm positive that he is capable of making that type of move.

Right, it's really just a hindsight thing anyway, Since that hand I've seen him make some similiar bets as bluffs/semi-bluffs at least

08-11-2012 07:22 PM #1
WeldPhaser View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date May 2012 Posts 328 Location Northeast, PA	4nl- free ride in BB v.s Station I only have 30 hands on villain, he is 65/5 and the only other stat i have is he fold to flop c-bet 3/4 times.... I'm pretty sure villain has suititus.... I bet 2/3 on flop, I'm thinkin i should check T'.. should I not vary my T' bet based on board texture??? Cause that's clearly what I do here. Revolution Gaming Network - $0.04 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players Hand converted by PokerTracker 4 MP: $3.90 CO: $3.85 BTN: $9.27 SB: $3.26 Hero (BB): $4.28 UTG: $2.33 SB posts SB $0.02, Hero posts BB $0.04 Pre Flop: (pot: $0.06) Hero has 7 8 UTG calls $0.04, fold, CO calls $0.04, fold, fold, Hero checks Flop: ($0.14, 3 players) A 8 7 Hero bets $0.10, UTG calls $0.10, fold Turn: ($0.34, 2 players) J Hero bets $0.17, UTG raises to $0.51, ???
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08-13-2012 05:56 PM #2
OngBonga View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Jul 2010 Posts 5,371 Location England	Maybe bet the turn a tad more, but otherwise I'm playing this the same. Now fold.
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08-13-2012 07:00 PM #3
seven-deuce View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Feb 2011 Posts 454 Location playing my range like an idiot	I'd bet $0.20 or $0.22 on turn and fold to the raise.
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08-13-2012 08:49 PM #4
WeldPhaser View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date May 2012 Posts 328 Location Northeast, PA	Originally Posted by seven-deuce I'd bet $0.20 or $0.22 on turn and fold to the raise. K, we really can't hate the turn card here v.s. this opp' before the re- ra' right????? Is villain ever taking this line Ax's, or any worse??? on the T'???? I don't think so...
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08-13-2012 09:04 PM #5
seven-deuce View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Feb 2011 Posts 454 Location playing my range like an idiot	In my experience when people start re-raising like this in limped pots they always have you beat, flushes straights etc. i believe when you bet the turn your betting for value for sure hoping to get called by a spade or ace rag/jack rag, but i don't think he's ever raising light or trying to bluff here again purely from my own experience. I'd fold every time in this spot in a limped pot.
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08-14-2012 04:34 AM #6
Shotglass View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Dec 2010 Posts 1,745 Location feelin' allright	I'm folding... He continued against your flop c-bet which is out of character for him, so he's got something he likes...Ax, , 9T and maybe a few other hands that would limp pf; The J ott completes a couple different draws so he's unlikely to be making this move with Ax or bluffing.
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08-14-2012 06:41 AM #7
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08-14-2012 01:04 PM #8
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08-17-2012 01:42 AM #9
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08-17-2012 06:27 PM #10
WeldPhaser View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date May 2012 Posts 328 Location Northeast, PA	Originally Posted by Shotglass so he's unlikely to be making this move with Ax or bluffing. The only thing that bothers me w/ this hand is that I think he's slightly capable of bluff ra'ing this T'.. Since this hand I've seen him make some huge folds to T/R pressure.... ah meh,...
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08-18-2012 02:29 AM #11
Shotglass View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Dec 2010 Posts 1,745 Location feelin' allright	Originally Posted by WeldPhaser The only thing that bothers me w/ this hand is that I think he's slightly capable of bluff ra'ing this T'.. Since this hand I've seen him make some huge folds to T/R pressure.... ah meh,... You wrote that he's a station and gave an incredible stat of 65/5, albeit over a tiny sample. When someone who has shown no agression suddenly gets aggressive, it's a BIG warning sign. I'd rather err on the side of caution until I'm positive that he is capable of making that type of move.
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08-18-2012 02:38 PM #12
WeldPhaser View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date May 2012 Posts 328 Location Northeast, PA	y Originally Posted by Shotglass You wrote that he's a station and gave an incredible stat of 65/5, albeit over a tiny sample. When someone who has shown no agression suddenly gets aggressive, it's a BIG warning sign. I'd rather err on the side of caution until I'm positive that he is capable of making that type of move. Right, it's really just a hindsight thing anyway, Since that hand I've seen him make some similiar bets as bluffs/semi-bluffs at least
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