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Old 06-25-2010, 12:02 PM     Post subject: 4bet pot HU #1 (permalink)  
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 Ok so this the 6th hand at the table - only thing of note is that he limp/folded once before.

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When he 3 bet min-raises I don't think his range only has strong hands in it and I figure 4 betting for value and stacking off is best. Flatting the 4bet his range seems like mid pairs and KQ/AQ/AJ. My 4bet sizing could be better, either smaller to setup a higher SPR so I can maneuver more postflop or just make it $4 and shove all flops.

As played I don't have any FE with a shove right?
 
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Old 06-25-2010, 02:03 PM #2 (permalink)  
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 I'd flat his minraise. As played it's a fold.
[00:29] <daven> dc, why not check turn behind
[00:30] <DC> daven
[00:30] <DC> on my hand?
[00:30] <daven> yep
[00:30] <DC> because I am drunk
[00:30] <daven> nice reason
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Old 06-25-2010, 04:13 PM #3 (permalink)  
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were oop, i like ur 4b. U can flat tho. def cbet the flop, as played its ok to shove
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were oop,
wat? It's BvB. I guess 4betting is okay =\ I dunno though
[00:29] <daven> dc, why not check turn behind
[00:30] <DC> daven
[00:30] <DC> on my hand?
[00:30] <daven> yep
[00:30] <DC> because I am drunk
[00:30] <daven> nice reason
[00:30] <daven> no further questions
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Old 06-25-2010, 09:32 PM #5 (permalink)  
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 I would check shove on this stupid faggot
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Old 06-25-2010, 11:28 PM #6 (permalink)  
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 strong words from mr m2m.

I don't have a problem with shoving but I think I like folding better.
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Old 06-27-2010, 12:23 AM #7 (permalink)  
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I would check shove on this stupid faggot
I don't fully get a c/shove here as he will be getting 4-1 so will call most pp's, or do you think we have enough FE against random air in his range + we sometimes get value from AQ to make this profitable?

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I don't fully get a c/shove here as he will be getting 4-1 so will call most pp's, or do you think we have enough FE against random air in his range + we sometimes get value from AQ to make this profitable?

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why would he be betting his pps here on the flop
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why would he be betting his pps here on the flop
edit: Just think about what his betting range is and what his check down range is. He is prolly gonna bet most of his draws / air here and a very high % he is gonna wanna check down his pps, raising them would seemingly accomplish nada. If u cshove here he might decide to stack off with his draws, his raised pps and fold his air. Your gonna get a call from AQ very seldom here. And you dominate his draws equity wise
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edit: Just think about what his betting range is and what his check down range is. He is prolly gonna bet most of his draws / air here and a very high % he is gonna wanna check down his pps, raising them would seemingly accomplish nada. If u cshove here he might decide to stack off with his draws, his raised pps and fold his air. Your gonna get a call from AQ very seldom here. And you dominate his draws equity wise
Ah I see given the pre flop action it's unlikely he has JJ+ and maybe even TT so 77/66 etc is rarely betting this flop and he has no pair + draws in his range and I crush things like KhQh.

This hand is making more sense.
 
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