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convictkeeper
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10-10-2007, 10:37 PM
Post subject: 4 Hands that kicked my ass... HELP ME PLEASE
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 24
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I had a bad session and wonder if I just sucked today or what.
Hand #1
Villain is very loose/weak and I just think this is standaed variance. Am I right?
http://www.pokerhand.org/?1573318
Hand #2
Villain is a typical donk at 61/7/1. The board is scary, but can I fold here?
http://www.pokerhand.org/?1573337
Hand #3
The villain in this case is 36/17/6. I can put him on a strong J, but ...
http://www.pokerhand.org/?157335
Hand #4
This one I should have seen. The villain is nittier than me. He plays 10/6/4. Feel free to kick my ass here. I am still kicking it.
http://www.pokerhand.org/?1573373
I ended up down 2 BI after all this mess, but what should/could I have done different?
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Ash256
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: UK
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FYI, this is NL Hold'em Strategies, Short-handed NL is the place to post.
1: Cooooooler!
2: hh is messed up, what I can see is ok though.
3: wrong hh, this is a PLO hand by someone else
4: There are many ways to play this pre, idk which ones right, but you know what's wrong with your flop play.
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Evansgambit
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Join Date: Jan 2007
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For hand two, I would take doyle brunson's advice and play the hand slow and carefully on the flop. Anytime, a floppd straight or flush is possible, especially given 4 way. If it was only headsup, one could be excused.
Because you were the original preflop raiser, and you raised again on the flop this would alert your opponents into thinking you have an overpair. Because you have the flush draw, your hand is playable - except when facing a lone Kh or Ah. In which case, the flush draw can not help you. Also a lone Kh or Ah is about even money to beat you, 48%.
As played, I would either call or raise the flop (Raising is difficult because they might move in, in which case you only have 7 outs or none if its a Kh or Ah flush). Both are fine. And if I couldn't lose them then, I would have to check, call or fold the turn and river. Just try to keep the pot small, even if you make the flush.
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For hand 4, the re-raise before the flop is good, how ever it gives away a lot of information about your hand. Consequently, you lose the ability to represent the flop. Villian could have a low pocket pair without a set, and could move in on the flop - making your call very hard. When villian re-raised you, you had to put him on an ace or a lower pocket pair. Just remember that AK was paying you 75% of the time, in cases where you improve to QQQ or he misses the flop.
Your play was not in line with pocket aces or jacks, although its possible to play it that way - at the expense of losing profit! You would lean towards slowplaying the set. Villian was only afraid of these two hands, with the chance that you also had AK or AQ. As played, you played it scared - put yourself in a position where only a stronger hand would call you, while weaker ones folded.
As painful as it seems, you would have to check the flop and fold unless you know your opponent to be putting on moves. There's that quote, Pocket Kings are like Pocket Deuces with an ace on board.
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Jack Sawyer
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#1: booohoooo *sniff*
#2: board is too scary. i'm bet/folding flop here
#3: bet turn for value. don't check with quads in plo!
#4: bad
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I only think #4 isn't great because of villains stats. I may call pre and b/f flop. As played I would usually push here even with the A but the J makes this hand that much worse. I think you're trapped here with that flop. I may c/f but that sucks.
Jack, check out hand #2 again (and post again...woohoo!). Villain acts first and he bet, so hero cannot B/F. I probably raise flop here and try to call down for a cheap showdown. Any substantial betting and I fold.
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Jack Sawyer
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#2: yeah, hero raises flop here, fold if pf aggressor 3bets flop, i just hate Q-high flushes so I never chase em
why do you insist on posting hands on pokerhand.org, convictkeeper? we have our own hh convertor here, much easier on the eyes and we don't have to browse to a different site to see the damn hands
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