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Old 07-17-2009, 06:47 AM     Post subject: 300bb deep flopped boat line check #1 (permalink)  
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 villain is 38/4/4 and had been betting and reraising a fair bit getting people to fold otherwise hadn't seen him actually showdown with crap except a BB special with 25o that flopped an open ender that completed on the river.
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UTG delacanc ($33.50)
CO JMCR1 ($10.00)
BTN Hribouc ($10.40)
SB Hero ($30.85)
BB Shadowdeep ($9.75)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 5 players) Hero is SB
delacanc raises to $0.50, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.45, 1 fold

called this for set value essentially.

Flop: ($1.10, 2 players)
Hero bets $1, delacanc calls $1

flopped the monster and tried to start building the pot.

Turn: ($3.10, 2 players)
Hero bets $6.30, delacanc goes all-in $32, Hero goes all-in $23.05[/color]

to get the money in , I would need to over bet the pot and figured that it was best to start now. What I didn't count on was him shoving all in. I snap called as he had done exactly what I was trying to do. My question essentially revolves around was whether over betting the pot like I did a good or bad move , and only afterwards have I thought that I might not have been ahead. KK, QQ, KQ all have me beaten, Kx has a good draw to a better full house . he could have shoved with a flush draw ,AK,AJ

River: ($64.45, 2 players)

This mainly revolves around being so deep, 100bb and I wouldn't be thinking about it , 300bb deep and effectively had 5% of roll on the table.
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Old 07-17-2009, 08:11 AM #2 (permalink)  
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Against QQ-KK, K2s+, K2o+, you have an equity of 72% on the turn. If you narrow it down to QQ-KK, K9s+, KTo+, and add in AK, AJ, AKo, you still have 56.5% equity, and that's not counting the flush draws he might bluffing you with. So I think you're fairly ahead.

And I guess the overbetting the pot depends on the villain? If he calls a $3 bet 50% of the time and calls a $6 bet 33% of the time, you're getting in .5(3) = $1.5 with the first bet and .33(6) = $2 with the second bet.
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Old 07-17-2009, 10:58 AM #3 (permalink)  
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just bet pot on the turn yo
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Old 07-17-2009, 01:51 PM #4 (permalink)  
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 wouldn't betting pot on the turn mean that villain would have to raise the turn in order to get the money all in on the river without it looking a horrible over bet.
Also what about the flop play ? is betting pot on the flop ok here or is it better to go for a check raise. I've never really played this deep against someone before so wasn't sure on the best bet sizes/strategy to get the money in with.
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Old 07-17-2009, 01:56 PM #5 (permalink)  
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wouldn't betting pot on the turn mean that villain would have to raise the turn in order to get the money all in on the river without it looking a horrible over bet.
Also what about the flop play ? is betting pot on the flop ok here or is it better to go for a check raise. I've never really played this deep against someone before so wasn't sure on the best bet sizes/strategy to get the money in with.
since he's the PFR flop is like an obvious check/raise
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Old 07-17-2009, 02:24 PM #6 (permalink)  
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since he's the PFR flop is like an obvious check/raise
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called this for set value essentially.
Really? Just for set value? TT has value as a made hand...
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Old 07-17-2009, 02:32 PM #7 (permalink)  
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probably not against top 4% if that's his real raising range
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Old 07-17-2009, 02:41 PM #8 (permalink)  
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Against QQ-KK, K2s+, K2o+, you have an equity of 72% on the turn. If you narrow it down to QQ-KK, K9s+, KTo+, and add in AK, AJ, AKo, you still have 56.5% equity, and that's not counting the flush draws he might bluffing you with. So I think you're fairly ahead.
These are both terrible ranges. reread OP
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