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Old 11-22-2008, 05:34 PM     Post subject: 3 things you've done in last week to improve your game #1 (permalink)  
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1. Reviewed last 4k HH's in depth, looking for (and finding ) leaks.
2. Learned more functionality for HEM: "fish list" search, filtering, etc.
3. Practiced hand reading by loading a villain's HH's (checked the "known hole cards" box) in HEM and stopping replayer on every street, trying to put both players on a range. Took notes at end of each interesting hand.

No BS pleez. Stuff we noobies are doing / ought to be doing. Things that will turn into monies.
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Old 11-22-2008, 05:45 PM #2 (permalink)  
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nothing unfortunately.

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Old 11-22-2008, 05:51 PM #3 (permalink)  
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1) Joined GrinderSchool
2) Studied stats of reg I have 1.3k hands on to learn how to best exploit him
3) Reviewed my own stats on HEM, with a little more understandage of spew spots.
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Old 11-22-2008, 06:03 PM #4 (permalink)  
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1) Sat back from the tables the last two days a re-read all the strategy stickies.
2) Began reading Sklansky's NLHE Theory and Practice
3) Reviewed all of my big win and big loss plays over the past 30 days to see where my mistakes were.
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1. Played more hands
2. Played more hands
3. Played more hands

and then some more

OK, really:
1. Datamining, color coding, and generally dedicating more time to table selection. Didn't do that much of it before... Done.
2. Study poker literature 10h/week and watch at least 2 coaching videos each day (mainly stox). Done.
3. Log 2k hands each day and go through the biggest pots won/lost HHs for each day. Done.
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Old 11-22-2008, 06:51 PM #6 (permalink)  
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3) Reviewed all of my big win and big loss plays over the past 30 days to see where my mistakes were.
Funny story. Years ago when I first started posting on these forums I said that I only like to review my big hands because that's where all the money is won and lost. Fnord scolded me, telling me it was the dumbest thing he had ever heard.

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Old 11-22-2008, 07:33 PM #7 (permalink)  
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3) Reviewed all of my big win and big loss plays over the past 30 days to see where my mistakes were.
Funny story. Years ago when I first started posting on these forums I said that I only like to review my big hands because that's where all the money is won and lost. Fnord scolded me, telling me it was the dumbest thing he had ever heard.
u talkin NL, right? cause LHE is a different story imo... at least once u get PF right
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It was likely based on the fact that Fnord was a LHE player at the time. But I only served it up as a funny story! Take from it what you wish.

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also, i like how you've kept the same controversial avatar all this time.

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Old 11-22-2008, 07:59 PM #10 (permalink)  
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1) acquired 3 hours of coaching from a winning player.
2) reading Sklansky's Theory and Practice
3) Got my last 25k hands sent to me, and shipped 'em off to ihategnomes... he's supposed to get back to me on them.
The older I get, the more I start wondering; Just what in the hell is going on here?
 
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Old 11-22-2008, 08:05 PM #11 (permalink)  
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It was likely based on the fact that Fnord was a LHE player at the time. But I only served it up as a funny story! Take from it what you wish.
It's cool, just stating the difference between NL and limit...

People dont get my avatar, they always assume bad things
But i do like a good controversy

Back to topic, one thing i should do more is analysing other regs play and see what i can get from them... like Bollocks said.
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Old 11-22-2008, 08:10 PM #12 (permalink)  
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 1) Joined IRC #flopturnriver (not so sure about that one :P)
2) Started and finished my GTA IV operation in record time - will improve my GTA game for sure.
3) If it has to be 3, I guess... hmmm... reviewed all my big hands
Actually I've been making a lot more, and more detailed player notes this week, and for a change it has helped rather than backfired.
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Old 11-22-2008, 08:14 PM #13 (permalink)  
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1. Not played
2. Exercised
3. Did some hobby stuff.
This is no BS, when I play next time I will WANT to play.
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Old 11-22-2008, 09:54 PM #15 (permalink)  
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3. Watched videos
This is a good one - I need to do it more.

To weigh in on the "only review big hands" issue, it's important to note that our biggest leaks are going to be worst in big pots. But we can have HUGE leaks (like blinds vs. blinds) that cost more money over time. The search for leaks shouldn't stop with only big hands, imo.

One thing I've done is to set up a filter that finds "troublesome cbetting spots," things like big pairs where an Ace or King hits, AK or AQ overcards oop, that sort of thing. Then I stop the replayer and analyze the flop before my action, see if I'm "picking spots" that make sense for cbets. It's hard to claim you're "picking spots" if you never find the fold button.
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Old 11-22-2008, 10:19 PM #16 (permalink)  
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 1) Took a week of not playing (started again on Tuesday). Major leap/study in this time was a serious attempt to apply Vinyl Burns' diablo philosophy in a poker context - this after sitting in on the first half of one of his circus workshops.

2) Identified and listed 9 leaks recently appearing in my poker journey - most importantly = NOT logging into IRC while I'm grinding - this is huge ----ve EV cos the tables should be my main/only focus

3) Withdrew more $$$ to remind myself what poker is about and to stop myself from prematurely moving up/taking shots at mid-stakes
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 1) Spent a ton of time in HM looking over different filters and looking at how lines I take effect my winrate. (i.e: Raise, face threebet, call, IP/OOP)

2) Did some Grinderschool vids on the very subjects I am trying to work on most to ingrain the habits.

3) Looked over a ton of hands played by what I deem to be the two toughest regs at $200NL on iPoker and gained a ton of notes and insite into why they seem tough, what they do to be just that and why they are the biggest winners in my DB.
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 1.) I've re-read all the info in the beginners guide over and over.
2.) Reviewed videos on FTR.
3>) Every session has been treated as a "Training session" with discipline and focus!

Now I have to say this has been my best week of poker thanks to all I have learned from the peeps here at FTR!
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1.) I've re-read all the info in the beginners guide over and over.
2.) Reviewed videos on FTR.
3>) Every session has been treated as a "Training session" with discipline and focus!

Now I have to say this has been my best week of poker thanks to all I have learned from the peeps here at FTR!
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Old 11-22-2008, 11:28 PM #20 (permalink)  
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what is "HEM"??
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guys he's just looking to complain about taking coolers/beats

he'll continue to be the type of poker player we all love, the one that isn't any good but thinks he is, and slowly donates to the regulars.
 
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 also Robb, I would like to point out that you may no longer call yourself a noob. You may call yourself a micro grinder if need be, or even a small stakes grinder if you deem it appropriate. But over 15 months of FTR membership says you are no longer a noob.
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Old 11-23-2008, 03:05 AM #23 (permalink)  
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i do like this one, this is awesome didactics

1. put in more hands; do 6-8tabling

2. rerescanned handhistories using pokerstove/ reviewed *biggest pots* in several sessions (+plus notetaking on villdonks)

3. speewed 60% of my afternoonwinnings in laggmaniacing tonight

great thread, tyall and keep on trucking

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also Robb, I would like to point out that you may no longer call yourself a noob. You may call yourself a micro grinder if need be, or even a small stakes grinder if you deem it appropriate. But over 15 months of FTR membership says you are no longer a noob.
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Old 11-23-2008, 03:49 AM #25 (permalink)  
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I told all the regs at the $30 HU SNG level to use OPR
it improves my games by not being matched up with people of my skill level

oh wait you meant improve MY game
nothing then I've just been beating the SNGs for profits and don't even know where to get advice
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Old 11-23-2008, 09:50 AM #26 (permalink)  
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3) Reviewed all of my big win and big loss plays over the past 30 days to see where my mistakes were.
Funny story. Years ago when I first started posting on these forums I said that I only like to review my big hands because that's where all the money is won and lost. Fnord scolded me, telling me it was the dumbest thing he had ever heard.
I can absolutely see the sense in reviewing smaller hands, but how do you pick which ones?

Is it a matter of taking note of interesting hands as you play, or picking them at random out of your database, or something else?
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3) Reviewed all of my big win and big loss plays over the past 30 days to see where my mistakes were.
Funny story. Years ago when I first started posting on these forums I said that I only like to review my big hands because that's where all the money is won and lost. Fnord scolded me, telling me it was the dumbest thing he had ever heard.
I can absolutely see the sense in reviewing smaller hands, but how do you pick which ones?

Is it a matter of taking note of interesting hands as you play, or picking them at random out of your database, or something else?
Reviewing a whole session hand by hand from time to time...
Looking at some of your marginal loser/winner hands, you may load 20-30 hhs and look at them all
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Forgot to say, great thread man. I vote we each update this every week
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I actually did some analysis using pokerstove and hand ranges with pot odds. Found out stacking off with 66 PF hu was not good against a normal range of an unknown.
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also Robb, I would like to point out that you may no longer call yourself a noob. You may call yourself a micro grinder if need be, or even a small stakes grinder if you deem it appropriate. But as a subscriber of Grinderschool says you are no longer a noob.
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1. Take more notes on opponents that will help me next time he face off like range and betting patterns
2. Pay attention to all the hands, even if I'm not involved, because I can find out valuable info on opponents
3. Look at my own stats to see where I can improve and fix leaks
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1.) I let my A-game be my A-game
2.) Worked on my B-game
3.) Worked on my C-game
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1. Played more hands
2. Played more hands
3. Played more hands

and then some more

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1. Don't call an AI without the nuts, in general. I was doing this entirely too much esp. after a couple of winning hand in a row. In almost every case my top two pair got beat with a set.

2. Don't get drunk and try to move up from 5NL to 10NL without the proper BR just to see if the play is different. It wasn't much different but when I performed #1 the $$$ lost was a more significant hit to my BR.

3. Watch FTR videos and rewind when necessary to understand why certain plays were made.

4. Use Pokertracker. Previously I would fold to a PF 5bb bet. Now when I see the guy is a 70/60/6 I call or reraise and take down the pot.

5. Take more notes during the game. I now have almost 15k hands so I'm starting to see alot of repeat players.

6. Join IRC

Edit: Oh wait, you said top 3. Ignore 3 of these
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I felt guilty not being able to post in this thread so I got my lazy arse in gear:

1.Watched 2 bottomset videos and a GoldSeraph video in the DC Ringsside series.

2. Went through my HEM DB looking at how I play in 3bet pots, and how I isolate IP and OOP.

3. Went through some poker maths re. 3betting and "risking A to win B" with Muzz.
 
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This post is a GREAT idea. Now I feel like a lazy bag of ass and need to step up my attitude towards poker to become a winning player. Especially if I'm trying to grind my way outta the micro's. As of right now there are only two things that I can say I've really done in the last couple days.

1.) Taking more notes on players. I used to just play and never take notes 'cuz I thought they were a waste of time. Now I know better!

2.) Limit how many tables I'm playing. I assumed grinding meant getting in as many hands as possible. Which there is an argument for that I guess, but I think I was playing too many at a time for me to play comfortably. So I took myself from 4 or 5 down to 1 or 2 at a time. Gotta say it has helped out a lot in terms of reads and whatnot.

Now I'm gonna have to go find 3 MORE things just so I don't feel like a slacker compared to you guys. I think I might go read all the 6-max strategy articles on here...
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I can absolutely see the sense in reviewing smaller hands, but how do you pick which ones?
Looks at catagories of spots over a reasonable sample:
  • Getting 3-bet
    4-betting
    BN opens you defend
    You open from BN
    Offsuit broadways
    Cold-calling on the button
    over-limping on the button
    (check) raising c-bets with air

How are your results in those spots? How are your results if you throw away a couple sick coolers (either way.) Do you think you're getting the best of it? Do you think you can play more hands in this spot?

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2. Reading lots of articles on this site.
3. Started reading my first poker book, "internet texas holdem" by matthew hilger.
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1. Don't call an AI without the nuts, in general. I was doing this entirely too much esp. after a couple of winning hand in a row. In almost every case my top two pair got beat with a set.
you cant generalize like this. its all about hand RANGES, not absolute hand strength. There are a bazillion times to call an AI without nuts, but it is player/situation dependent and has to do with how your hand stacks up against villains range of hands, the price your being laid, etc.
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eeevees are not monies yet...they are like baby monies.
 
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Old 11-25-2008, 03:01 PM #43 (permalink)  
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1. Don't call an AI without the nuts, in general. I was doing this entirely too much esp. after a couple of winning hand in a row. In almost every case my top two pair got beat with a set.
you cant generalize like this. its all about hand RANGES, not absolute hand strength. There are a bazillion times to call an AI without nuts, but it is player/situation dependent and has to do with how your hand stacks up against villains range of hands, the price your being laid, etc.
Maybe I didn't put it correctly. I was calling an AI when I was pretty sure I was beat. I have TT against a TAGG and bet pf and get reraised and I call. Flop is AK5 and Villian pushes and I call.
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1. Don't call an AI without the nuts, in general. I was doing this entirely too much esp. after a couple of winning hand in a row. In almost every case my top two pair got beat with a set.
you cant generalize like this. its all about hand RANGES, not absolute hand strength. There are a bazillion times to call an AI without nuts, but it is player/situation dependent and has to do with how your hand stacks up against villains range of hands, the price your being laid, etc.
Maybe I didn't put it correctly. I was calling an AI when I was pretty sure I was beat. I have TT against a TAGG and bet pf and get reraised and I call. Flop is AK5 and Villian pushes and I call.
but you said you weren't retarded?
 
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1. Studied hand histories early in the week looking for hands I was confused on... didn't really find any but posted a few to IRC for comment.

2. Eliminated IRC while I'm playing. Not only was I distracted I too often got bullshit back when I tried to ask questions, granted it was only a couple of users but decided it wasn't worth it while playing.

3. Buckled down and played very basic poker and incorporated pot odds... result: up 5 BIs.
 
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1. Made a $50 deposit on PS so I can play the $2NL games, instead of messing around with my roll trying to beat $10NL on Full Tilt with too small of a roll.

2. Watched some of the microstakes videos, and learned a few things; relative position was very interesting and something I quickly picked up on.

3. Forced myself to be dilligent about making reads and taking notes on players, even at the very lowest stakes. Plain and simple, it has made a positive difference in my ability to make better laydowns, and extract more value from players. I've finally been able to break the habit of believing that my Qs or Ks are overpair to the uber nitty limp-reraisers.
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1. Re-read Harrington on Cash Games Vol. 1 and 2 for a second time
2. Watched 3 BidSpenda tutorials on $5nl full ring and six handed
3. Started looking for a coach to karate chop me into playing correctly
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It was likely based on the fact that Fnord was a LHE player at the time. But I only served it up as a funny story! Take from it what you wish.
It's cool, just stating the difference between NL and limit...

People dont get my avatar, they always assume bad things
But i do like a good controversy

Back to topic, one thing i should do more is analysing other regs play and see what i can get from them... like Bollocks said.
i like your avatar...

i watched 3 episodes of wpt....
 
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 1.Read Harrington on Hold'em Volume I&II
2.Forcing myself to write notes on other players
3.Playing only when I am fully focused
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1. looked at each stack off (mine or villains) and see how the hands played out
2. posted/read on ftr
3. posted/read on 2p2
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