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Old 08-13-2009, 03:06 PM     Post subject: 2nl: Top 2 pair vs raise and 3bet #1 (permalink)  
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Hi all, thanks in advance for any advice

Fairly new to table, 2nd or 3rd orbit. I'd only played 1 hand and won a big pot with a K high flush as a bb special in a limped pot on first hand which is why i'm so deep.

UTG+1 was a 16/10 after 250 hands multi tabler, he also seemed to overplay marginal hands quite a bit ie bottom pair

MP2 was a 92/0 after about 25 hands

my big question is should i have just folded pre, but as i didn't is this an easy fold on flop?

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Button ($0.46)
SB ($2.41)
BB ($1.38)
Hero (UTG) ($3.32)
UTG+1 ($0.91)
MP1 ($0.77)
MP2 ($1.92)
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Preflop: Hero is UTG with Kc, Jh
Hero bets $0.09, UTG+1 calls $0.09, 1 fold, MP2 calls $0.09, MP3 calls $0.07, 4 folds

Flop: ($0.39) Ks, Jc, 10h(4 players)
Hero bets $0.39, UTG+1 raises to $0.82 (All-In), MP2 raises to $1.83 (All-In), 1 fold, Hero ??

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Old 08-13-2009, 04:33 PM #2 (permalink)  
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#1 - Stop raising KJo from UTG. It'd dominated by so many hands and there are too many players left to act.
#2 - I probably call, since he could be 3betting AI with any piece of the board (93vp$ip). AQ maybe, Q9 perhaps, TT sure, but any other one or two-pair hands + draws are definitely in his range. Do the calculations and see if its +EV against these ranges.
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Old 08-13-2009, 04:56 PM #3 (permalink)  
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I agree with Nutty. Fold pf, but as played call flop
<JustinSKS> Tha'ts why I fold my 33 to 72o, because 7 high beats, 1 pair, donk.

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Old 08-14-2009, 09:35 AM #4 (permalink)  
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Yeah i don't normally play KJ from anything earlier than mp but usually only late because it is a trouble hand, especially for me.

I pokerstoved it and and put his 3bet range on pretty much any hand that caught a piece of it (except Q7o etc.) and worked out to be a pretty close.

3 way pot was tricky to figure out, but i put UTG+1 on a similar raising range to mine for simplicity

thanks again

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Old 08-14-2009, 01:37 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Vinland is an unknown quantity at this point
 I have no problem calling UTG+1 if your read is correct...

You don't have much of a read on MP2 but 92/0 over 25 might be good enough to label him as a fish/donk. He may have a set but its very possible for him to do this with some Kx's and SD's.

I pokerstoved some ranges w/ SD's in MP2's range and I think you can make the call.
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