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Old 01-11-2011, 08:31 PM     Post subject: 25nl: Top set on turn C/r all in #1 (permalink)  
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We have been quiet and tight so no real image to speak of. Villain just sat down - this is his second hand.

Trivial call getting this price vs his range?

$0.10/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
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Stacks:
UTG doubletripl ($25.35)
UTG+1 NUTSonly ($43.24)
CO Hero ($26.64)
BTN chevarnaze ($25.14)
SB duks2010 ($25)
BB hopeful1313 ($10.06)

Pre-Flop: ($0.35, 6 players) Hero is CO
doubletripl raises to $1, 1 fold, Hero calls $1, 1 fold, duks2010 calls $0.90, 1 fold

Flop: ($3.25, 3 players)
duks2010 checks, doubletripl checks, Hero bets $2.50, duks2010 calls $2.50, doubletripl folds

Turn: ($8.25, 2 players)
duks2010 checks, Hero bets $5.75, duks2010 goes all-in $22.25, Hero ???
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Old 01-11-2011, 08:45 PM #2 (permalink)  
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 incredibly trivial call, yes
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 I'm never folding here.. he clearly wants to stack off and we crush his value stacking off range. Kinda uninteresting hand to post i assume he had 67s :P
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Old 01-12-2011, 07:18 PM #4 (permalink)  
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don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit
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Higher stakes perhaps - at 25nl i think his range is sets and straights - 50% equity
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Old 01-12-2011, 09:26 PM #6 (permalink)  
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 yeah either way this is certainly a call.
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Higher stakes perhaps - at 25nl i think his range is sets and straights - 50% equity
never AA? etc?
don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit
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Old 01-12-2011, 10:30 PM #8 (permalink)  
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never AA? etc?
If it was anything other than his first orbit i'd add in more hands for sure - certainly sets which makes it a trivial hand not worthy of posting (it barely is now) but second hand at the table getting fancy with AA OOP? I cant buy into that.

if we'd been playing for an hour or 3 or 4 orbits sure your range is exactly what id have felt his was.
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If it was anything other than his first orbit i'd add in more hands for sure - certainly sets which makes it a trivial hand not worthy of posting (it barely is now) but second hand at the table getting fancy with AA OOP? I cant buy into that.

if we'd been playing for an hour or 3 or 4 orbits sure your range is exactly what id have felt his was.
this is actually really interesting!

i'm MORE likely to include KK/AA from an unknown, but thinking further and that's cos any unknown in my games is guaranteed non-reg cos i lol-volume. Think you could also go something like sets/suited straights/AA in this spot if you wanted, still a call though. including AA only as a form of discounted QQ+ - hope that makes sense
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Old 01-13-2011, 01:18 PM #10 (permalink)  
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 If you have 50% equity this is a snap call. If you have like 30% equity it still snap call. Too lazy to do that math but its something like 15:36. So 2.2x:1. Yum.
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