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Micro2Macro
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11-07-2009, 03:09 AM
Post subject: 25nl - (Be)rate my tripple barrel
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Villain is 11/7 over 150, 17% ATS, no other reads, hes gone to showdown 3/15 times.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
MP1 ($24.30)
MP2 ($29.20)
CO ($26.70)
Hero (Button) ($25)
SB ($18.35)
BB ($37.15)
UTG ($26.05)
UTG+1 ($22.35)
Preflop: Hero is Button with 7 , 7
5 folds, Hero bets $0.75, SB calls $0.65, BB calls $0.50
Flop: ($2.25) 9 , 2 , 2 (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $1.75, 1 fold, BB calls $1.75
Turn: ($5.75) A (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $4, BB calls $4
River: ($13.75) 3 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $8
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Outlaw
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I think this is fine. You may get some thin value from 44-66 and may fold out some 9x hands that will think you have an overpair, Ax or won't be able to stand the pressure of a paired board and a flush getting there.
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daven
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I don't like the third barrel cos I'm a nit who doesn't fire 3 barrels enough. Especially on this type of river flush blank and when you have showdown value. Flop and turn are good, I even like the sizing.
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Originally Posted by Outlaw
I think this is fine. You may get some thin value from 44-66 and may fold out some 9x hands that will think you have an overpair, Ax or won't be able to stand the pressure of a paired board and a flush getting there.
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um, so 9x is folding but 44 is calling?
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Micro2Macro
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I discussed the hand in IRC and mcat pointed out that my sizing on flop is bad if I plan on firing multiple barrels because it will likely fold out the junky type hands are willing to call a street or two. So essentially, my flop cbet has given villain more of a chance to have a real hand at this point that he'd be happy to call down with.
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If 11/7 is willing to call you on turn with A on board, he will most probably call you on the river, too. Does the FE (TT,JJ,QQ,KK if he ever slowplays any of these) make up for the hands you get called with AK,AQ, and maybe even AJ?
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Originally Posted by Micro2Macro
I discussed the hand in IRC and mcat pointed out that my sizing on flop is bad if I plan on firing multiple barrels because it will likely fold out the junky type hands are willing to call a street or two. So essentially, my flop cbet has given villain more of a chance to have a real hand at this point that he'd be happy to call down with.
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With his stats I don't see him calling all the way to the river with small pairs so his range on the river should be mainly 9x and Ax type hands (don't see TT-QQ showing up here), do you ever put him on a flush draw in this spot?
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bigspenda73
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just jam the river, it's 25nl FR, he'll probably fold 9's full
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Outlaw
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Put yourself in villain's shoes and say you have a 9x hand. What would you think Micro's range is in this spot? Can you profitably call against his 3-barrel range?
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Micro2Macro
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Originally Posted by bigspenda73
just jam the river, it's 25nl FR, he'll probably fold 9's full
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lmfao, he actually FLAT CALLED instead of check/shoving with 9's full. I laughed my ass off that he put me on 22/AA - but I guess no one at 25nl is ever going for 3 streets with worse so good play sir. I like your idea of jamming, I need to figure out spots to do this more often since it always works unless they have the nuts.
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bigspenda73
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lol I was being serious about jamming, and semi-serious about him folding 99, 25nl FR is the nittiest game in the history of historical histories.
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