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Old 11-07-2009, 06:48 AM     Post subject: 25nl - line check #1 (permalink)  
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 Okay I think pre is close, but this guy is isolating a big fish who was limp calling alot preflop and was real stationy postflop, so I figured it was okay to call given that and the price.

On the turn he basically snap checked back...so I decided to go for thin value on the river. Problem is the only worse ace that's calling is AT since I doubt lower aces are in his range really (he's only 15/7 so far over 90, still small sample though). So he's basically bluff catching if he has KK or worse pairs and I really don't know if he's calling them or not...

Other options? Fold pre maybe? Being oop sucks and so far he's been tight.

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UTG+1 ($35.75)
MP1 ($29)
MP2 ($22.60)
CO ($28)
Button ($25)
Hero (SB) ($25)
BB ($47.80)
UTG ($26.35)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A, J
3 folds, MP2 calls $0.25, CO bets $1.25, 1 fold, Hero calls $1.15, 1 fold, MP2 calls $1

Flop: ($4) 6, A, 2 (3 players)
Hero checks, MP2 checks, CO bets $2.25, Hero calls $2.25, 1 fold

Turn: ($8.50) 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

River: ($8.50) 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $4.50
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Old 11-07-2009, 12:48 PM #2 (permalink)  
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 I think preflop is just about okay given the fish will be limp calling and giving you lots of monies with worse aces. There's also plenty of these in the isolators range provided he's decent and will iso a fish light in LP.

Flop and turn are obv fine. I'm definitely beting this river for value, but I think I'd mke it a little bit bigger. I mean I think he does fold a lot here, but there's more combos of weaker aces in his range than there is of like TT-KK so I think $6 is a bit better since he doesn't often check turn to fold these to a bet imo. I don't think we cause him to call too more many weaker hands for $4.50 than we do for $6.

 
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Old 11-07-2009, 03:07 PM #3 (permalink)  
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 I'd check/fold river and I don't think there's any value in a bet
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Old 11-07-2009, 04:11 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Bet/fold river. At 25NL, peeps like to get stubborn with their high pp hands.. definitely bet on the small side because the only hands calling a bigger bet are A10, AJ, AQ, AK.
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Old 11-07-2009, 07:49 PM #5 (permalink)  
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 I made the bet size small because I was hoping to get looked up by pairs worse than an ace. Perhaps a gay bet of like 2.75 would be better, otherwise I'm probably with spenda and agree that c/f is the best line since everyone is so goddamn fucking nitty he checked back a set ffs cuz he was scurred of the flush.
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Old 11-07-2009, 07:53 PM #6 (permalink)  
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 I'm actually just kidding about him checking back a set. He had KK and I'm pretty much just lucky he's a calling station because I never take this line with worse on this board.

I was thinking though, he has AQ/AK/AJ, no worse aces, KK is like 6 combos, QQ is 6 also..but any pair worse than that and I think we can assume he's just gonna pitch it. So 8+8+6 = 22 combos that beat us when called, vs 12 that we beat....doesn't look like there's value in betting assuming this is his range (which is a pretty simplistic assumption and I think I may have coutned wrong but meh, the point is shown). Alot of players will probably dump pairs worse than an ace also, so betting is an even bigger mistake.

I think c/f is totally fine because he's never going to bluff us on the river.
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