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Sasquach991
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07-23-2010, 07:18 PM
Post subject: 25NL-KK vs passive CS
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35/4/0.3 over 24
Got 2nd BD flush draw but I still don't see any way I can call this turn shove.
$0.10/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
8 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG ($17.60)
UTG+1 ($23.95)
MP1 ($59.15)
MP2 ($40.42)
CO ($25)
BTN ($24.65)
Hero ($31.19)
BB ($77.28)
Pre-Flop: ($0.35, 8 players) Hero is SB  
2 folds, MP1 calls $0.25, 3 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, 1 fold, MP1 calls $1.25
Flop:    ($3.25, 2 players)
Hero bets $2, MP1 calls $2
Turn:  ($7.25, 2 players)
Hero bets $3, MP1 goes all-in $55.65, Hero folds
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Imthenewfish
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I like a larger bet on turn, but i don't really see how we can call the shove without notes from previous situations like this
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StarGrinder
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasquach991
Passive Calling Station MP1 goes all-in $55.65 for 8x the pot
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You beat one pair Qx and air. Fold.
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kmind
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Straight Flush
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Bet turn larger and fold
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Sasquach991
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kmind
Bet turn larger and fold
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Why bet turn larger if I'm just going to fold?
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"Just cause I'm from the South don't mean I ain't got no book learnin'"
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Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla
...we've all learned long ago how to share the truth without actually having the truth.
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Imthenewfish
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasquach991
Why bet turn larger if I'm just going to fold?
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why do you bet at all if you're just going to fold
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Sasquach991
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Why bet more here?
Will better fold? Prob not as he's a CS
Will worse call? Yes
For value?
If he calls turn bet then what if river is non heart? Is it a flush or some Qx hand, etc.
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"Just cause I'm from the South don't mean I ain't got no book learnin'"
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Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla
...we've all learned long ago how to share the truth without actually having the truth.
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PlayToWin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasquach991
Why bet more here?
For value?
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Yes, because worse will call a bigger bet and if he's on a worse draw your letting him do it cheaply and losing value. I say bet a little more than 1/2 pot.
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If he calls turn bet then what if river is non heart?
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Then he might have missed his draw. You bet around 1/2 pot for value and he folds, calls, or raises.
OTOH, if you feel like he's got it, then just fold. But don't let it tilt you either way, if possible.
OBV, fold as played.
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kmind
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Right def. for value. If river is not a heart/Q or whatever I'd throw in a medium value bet because he can have a flush but he can still def have worse Qx or something random we beat and he calls.
As for your reply to my post - what do you mean? If he's raising our turn bet everytime then our strategy completely changes.
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StarGrinder
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasquach991
Why bet turn larger if I'm just going to fold?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Imthenewfish
why do you bet at all if you're just going to fold
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Imthenewfish
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Quote:
Originally Posted by StarGrinder
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well if he can answer that question then he'll know why to bet more
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StarGrinder
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Imthenewfish
well if he can answer that question then he'll know why to bet more
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I know, and I thought your response to it was hilarious. 
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kidsoldja
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I think preflop, this is an over bet, especially since the hand can be 3 way at most. I don't understand why you bet almost the same amount on the flop as you did preflop. If you bet so big preflop, why not bet big on the flop. These smaller bets probably smell like weakness to your opponent, and he's taking advantage of a scare card.
When you play your hand this strong preflop, no reason to slow it down on this kind of flop.
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FTR Bad Beat
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I think it is a fold. Likelyl built his stack by doing this same thing.
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