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sarbox68

08-12-2009, 05:10 PM Post subject: 25nl: Flop chk/rai semibluff is 3b

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So have had some time this week and next and am trying to put some focused work in to at least get a little better at $25NL. Have def made some improvements. For those of you that remember, my 6m stats used to look like 17/14/2... and have since 5NL. Over the past 50K hands I'm now running 26/23/3.5, 3b 8% and my ATS is 40+. This is all good. However, I'm still running into some stupid sh!t with big hands -- maybe more so now 'cause I'm in more hands. So I'ma post a few and welcome all input.

Vil is 20/17/3 over 36 hands. Never seen him 3bet, also seems to be on the weak side as hasn't defended his blind once and folded to every Cbet so far. Also doesn't seem to be vry positionally aware - I think he's playing just about the same range everywhere.

Pre- I flat as we're deep and would like to see a flop w/ T9s. He's CBet 100% so far, so I don't think that narrows his range much for me. Given he seems a little weak, I chk/rai the Flop w/ the FD as I'd rather take it down then and there and there's a lot in his range that doesn't include an A.

When he 3bets me, I'm thinking a range AA,QQ,AQ,A6s,KsQs,KsJs,QsJs. I don't see him chk/rai w/ KK or AK given reads, or other random FD sh!t. So given that range, I'm getting the 2:1 pot odds I need to call. However, if I call, I'm pretty much commited given stack to pot. And I don't really like a shove, 'cause I don't think I have any fold equity and I'm not getting the money in good w/ a naked draw.

So of course I shove. On review, I'd prolly fold, but that seems weak since I'm getting the odds.

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP ($30.56)
CO ($25.26)
Button ($6.82)
SB ($27.46)
Hero (BB) ($50.95)
UTG ($46.59)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9

, 10

1 fold, MP bets $0.85, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.60

Flop: ($1.80) A

, 6

, Q

(2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $1.25, Hero raises $4, MP raises $12.55, Hero raises $46.10 (All-In), MP calls $15.91 (All-In)

Turn: ($61.22) Q

(2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($61.22) 7

(2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $61.22

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Cougar

08-13-2009, 02:16 PM

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PF is kind of meh, rather open or play this hand multi-way, but just me.

On the flop, we have a decent draw but it's not even the nut flush, I like c/c better than c/r. Keep the pot small if possible.

As played, think we absolutely have to fold to the 3-bet, don't think our range matches well against weak villain's range as he felts vs. our c/r on a threatening board.

Our Re-Raise is $28.46 (including the call of villain bet) and total pot will be $61.22, little/no Fold Equity so we need 46% equity, bet we don't even have half that.

EZ fold IMHO

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08-13-2009, 04:02 PM

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24.46/61.22 = 40.0%

Board: As 6s Qh

Hand 0: 72.698% { AA, QQ, AQs, A6s, KsQs, KsJs, QsJs, AQo }
Hand 1: 27.302% { Ts9s }

if we flat there's 24 in the pot with 16 behind which means we're calling $8 to win $32, 25% which means we need 12 outs to call a 3b and shove turn if we improve (something like KsJs)
so fold

I think I like a call on the flop for deception if he would expect you to raise a flush draw

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08-13-2009, 09:28 PM

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anyone 3bet pre here for w/e reason

scratch that, against this 'weaker' player calling is probably better.

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08-14-2009, 05:48 AM

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Call flop if he has an unbalanced range on turn or raise fold if he's more balanced but just fold pre.even ip I might call but it's close. He's tight and aggro with cbetting

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