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Old 12-10-2008, 11:05 PM     Post subject: 25NL: AKs vs reraise on flop #1 (permalink)  

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Total number of players : 6
Seat 5: KinkasPT ( $30.46 USD )
Seat 1: Hero ( $25 USD )
Seat 2: austin865 ( $29 USD )
Seat 6: diogames ( $46.21 USD )
Seat 3: koc2000 ( $47.90 USD )
Seat 4: sb22222 ( $25 USD )
Hero posts small blind [$0.10 USD].
austin865 posts big blind [$0.25 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Kd Ad ]
koc2000 calls [$0.25 USD]
sb22222 calls [$0.25 USD]
KinkasPT calls [$0.25 USD]
Hero raises [$1.90 USD]
austin865 calls [$1.75 USD]
koc2000 folds
sb22222 folds
KinkasPT folds
** Dealing Flop ** [ Td, 8h, Jd ] [POT 4.65]
Hero bets [$3.50 USD]
austin865 raises [$15.02 USD]
Hero ??

Shove over the top and be happy?
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Old 12-10-2008, 11:12 PM #2 (permalink)  
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equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 54.860% 53.96% 00.90% 4808 80.00 { AdKd }
Hand 1: 45.140% 44.24% 00.90% 3942 80.00 { AJs, AJo }
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Old 12-10-2008, 11:53 PM #3 (permalink)  
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equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 54.860% 53.96% 00.90% 4808 80.00 { AdKd }
Hand 1: 45.140% 44.24% 00.90% 3942 80.00 { AJs, AJo }
wat

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Old 12-11-2008, 02:06 AM #4 (permalink)  
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eh? I instafold here.
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Old 12-11-2008, 02:47 AM     Post subject: Re: 25NL: AKs vs reraise on flop #5 (permalink)  
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can't use hand converter until I have 10 posts, sorry
1) Post Whore to 10.
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They have an FTR tab that works perfectly. Also a great place to post an entire session for review.
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Old 12-11-2008, 03:38 AM #6 (permalink)  
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equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 54.860% 53.96% 00.90% 4808 80.00 { AdKd }
Hand 1: 45.140% 44.24% 00.90% 3942 80.00 { AJs, AJo }
wat
I didn't include the board
he has a flush draw + gut shot vs. assumed TPTK
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Old 12-11-2008, 04:47 AM #7 (permalink)  
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equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 54.860% 53.96% 00.90% 4808 80.00 { AdKd }
Hand 1: 45.140% 44.24% 00.90% 3942 80.00 { AJs, AJo }
Just TPTK in his range?

That's some serious narrowing based on one flop raise
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Old 12-11-2008, 08:21 AM #10 (permalink)  
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eh? I instafold here.
if you're going to post bad advice at least back it up with poor reasoning

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Old 12-11-2008, 08:44 AM #11 (permalink)  
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eh? I instafold here.
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He must have been joking
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Old 12-11-2008, 11:41 AM #12 (permalink)  
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I would have shoved, but thats probably why i don't have any Bankroll to speak of
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Old 12-11-2008, 11:52 AM #13 (permalink)  
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equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 54.860% 53.96% 00.90% 4808 80.00 { AdKd }
Hand 1: 45.140% 44.24% 00.90% 3942 80.00 { AJs, AJo }
Just TPTK in his range?

That's some serious narrowing based on one flop raise
I didn't feel like doing it for every hand, but basically we're a flip against most hands he has and we have folding equity
so shove
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Old 12-11-2008, 11:56 AM #14 (permalink)  
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I would have called, and then continuing check/call depending on if he bets big or small. would probably end up winning.
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Old 12-11-2008, 03:11 PM #15 (permalink)  
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equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 54.860% 53.96% 00.90% 4808 80.00 { AdKd }
Hand 1: 45.140% 44.24% 00.90% 3942 80.00 { AJs, AJo }
Just TPTK in his range?

That's some serious narrowing based on one flop raise
I didn't feel like doing it for every hand, but basically we're a flip against most hands he has and we have folding equity
so shove
FE Wat? After villain sticks over 1/2 his stack in on the flop? There's only FE if villain is bluffing, which isn't very likely without a good read.

Even so, we have a royal frush draw and potentially overs so it feels like our equity's good enough to shovel without any FE.
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Old 12-11-2008, 04:52 PM #16 (permalink)  
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 heres a better range:

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Board: Td 8h Jd
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	equity 	win 	tie 	      pots won 	pots tied	
Hand 0: 	54.491%  	54.14% 	00.35% 	         43954 	      282.00   { AdKd }
Hand 1: 	45.509%  	45.16% 	00.35% 	         36662 	      282.00   { TT, 88, KJs+, QJs, Q9s, JTs, T9s, AJo, KJo+, QJo, Q9o, JTo, T9o }
if you don't think villain is flatting pre with Q9, then we go up to 57%. get moneys in
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Old 12-11-2008, 05:06 PM #17 (permalink)  

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Thanks guys,
I was just about to post this but noobed up and made a whole new thread.

Board: Td Jd 8h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 50.184% 49.73% 00.45% 26588 240.50 { AdKd }
Hand 1: 49.816% 49.37% 00.45% 26391 240.50 { QQ-TT, 88, AJs, KJs, QJs, JTs, AJo, KJo, QJo, JTo }

This was the range I was toying with this morning. I like the range you provided as well, it's good. Even with the ranges I've given him we have 50% equity and 22BB in the pot already. Calling seems bad since we're OOP and wouldn't be taking advantage of whatever fold equity is present, if any. Based on my range it seems like either a fold or a shove is fine, but I lean towards shoving.
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Old 12-11-2008, 05:10 PM #18 (permalink)  
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Old 12-11-2008, 11:22 PM #19 (permalink)  
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Old 12-11-2008, 11:30 PM #20 (permalink)  

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a lot of time i thnk he is bluffing you should push all in probably taking down the pot right there
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