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Old 11-11-2008, 08:38 PM     Post subject: 25nl 6 max KK and weird bluff #1 (permalink)  
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These might be some FPS, not too sure. All comments welcome.


Hand 1
Decided to flat KK from SB against relative unkown. Hoping BB squeezes or folds.

Flop misses most of their ranges so I am planning to c/r to get value out of 99+ flush draws will prob bet too and I have the Kc as a blocker.

Then madness ensues.

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BB: $15.75
UTG: $25
MP: $42.85
CO: $28.75
BTN: $22.90
Hero (SB): $28.95

Pre-Flop: K K dealt to Hero (SB)
UTG folds, MP raises to $1, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.90, BB calls $0.75

Flop: ($3) 8 5 4 (3 Players)
Hero checks, BB checks, MP bets $1.75, Hero raises to $5.25, BB raises to $14.75 and is All-In, MP raises to $41.85 and is All-In, Hero

Hand 2
Decided to 3 bet standard looking blind steal with suited Ace. Leading the flop is prob dumb but it might get him to fold a low pair. maybe AQ, AK but doubtful.

Turn is unlikely to help him but I could easily have a big hand now so I c/rai.
I think he has AQ/Ak alot here.

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BB: $10
UTG: $24.20
CO: $26.20
BTN: $28.55
Hero (SB): $27.15

Pre-Flop: A 6 dealt to Hero (SB)
2 folds, BTN raises to $0.85, Hero raises to $2.50, BB folds, BTN calls $1.65

Flop: ($5.25) J 8 T (2 Players)
Hero bets $4, BTN calls $4

Turn: ($13.25) J (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $7, Hero raises to $20.65 and is All-In
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Old 11-11-2008, 09:15 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Stack off first hand.

c/f turn, bet river 2nd hand

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Old 11-11-2008, 10:13 PM #3 (permalink)  
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1. I think you gotta call. Prolly up against overpair, set or flush draw in some combo. At least u got the runner runner on top of the usual 2-outter to improve.
2. I has spewed many chips OOP getting attached to what I originally see as an ATS... and by the time you've CBet, you got almost 1/4 of your stack in the middle. In this case, you're hands only good as a bluff by the time you hit the Turn, so calling is totally useless as it will still commit you. So it's shove or fold. I prolly check/fold as I really don't have shit (even if the Ace spikes on the river, according to your range, I'm dead...) and I'm not convinced he folds enough after calling your 3bet, 3/4 flop and then passing on the oppty to pot control and check thru the Turn to make this the kinda spot I wanna toss my stack into.
 
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Old 11-11-2008, 11:32 PM #4 (permalink)  
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and I'm not convinced he folds enough after calling your 3bet, 3/4 flop and then passing on the oppty to pot control and check thru the Turn to make this the kinda spot I wanna toss my stack into.
This makes sense but the average 25nl player doesn't understand pot control and almost always think a turn check means that someone is giving up and they quite often try to pick up the pot there despite having a hand with showdown value. That's what I felt was going on here and thought he could lay down AK/AQ and sometimes mid pairs after hsi turn stab didn't work.
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hand 1: what you're doing there preflop is not going to work in NL25 since BB probably doesn't know what a squeeze is

hand 2: people who want you to fold don't bet half pot
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I don't think betting river is smart in hand 2 on a lot of river cards. So I amend my original advice to c/f both streets.

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Old 11-12-2008, 01:41 AM #7 (permalink)  
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Yeah I don't expect him to squeeze trash but him folding is fine. I like seeing a heads up flop as people stack of with tptk alot.
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