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settecba
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06-25-2009, 07:15 AM
Post subject: 25NL--->50NL. Differences.
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BR just hit 2K and im moving up to 50NL. What are the main differences? Ive heard theres a lot of 3betting monkeys at 50NL(I know there should be some 3betting properly aswell).
So... 50NLers and up: any advice?
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L_Clan_Sup3rMaN
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Is this FR? if so then no, most people are still not 3betting light or often enough where you can get away with not adding 4B bluffs to your arsenal. Not sure about 6m. IMO their is a huge difference from 50NL to 100NL FR as people are a lot mroe aggressive PF at 100NL and a lot more full time grinders. All my experience is in stars FWIW.
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settecba
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Cool...thanks...yeah, this is FR
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Getting good at poker is like that scene in the matrix where Neo suddenly sees that everyone is just a bunch of structured numbers and then he starts bending those numbers in really weird ways.
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minSim
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Agree, more 3betting at 50NL and generally more blind stealing and a little less big fish. Either game select decently to avoid the tough spots or make sure you aren't getting run over by the 3betters.
Do a decent amount of 3betting yourself.
Almost everyone sucks postflop though in about every non 100% standard situation.
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BooG690
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06-25-2009, 04:13 PM
Post subject: Re: 25NL--->50NL. Differences.
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Originally Posted by settecba
BR just hit 2K and im moving up to 50NL. What are the main differences? Ive heard theres a lot of 3betting monkeys at 50NL(I know there should be some 3betting properly aswell).
So... 50NLers and up: any advice?
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See, NOW I remember. The avatar just jigged my memory! Apologies!
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minSim
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I was talking 6max btw.
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Illfavor
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Ppl start playing flatting 3bets pre with the tops of their ranges more often.
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bigspenda73
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I think the jump/differences are much bigger at 6max compared to FR
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settecba
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OK...thanks to all for the heads up. I didnt have time today to play, but tomorrow im probably gonna start finding it out for myself.
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Originally Posted by ISF
Getting good at poker is like that scene in the matrix where Neo suddenly sees that everyone is just a bunch of structured numbers and then he starts bending those numbers in really weird ways.
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TonyB73
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I moved up to 50NL (6max) about 4 months ago.
Its a much bigger jump than any of the levels below, imo.
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jyms
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Whatever you do, don"t start adding 4bet bluffs as part of your everyday arsenal at $50NL. It's still all about value. Just learn to find smaller portions of value. They would have to be 3betting monkeys with tight, tight 5bet/call ranges to make it worthwhile at these stakes
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Micro2Macro
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I've noticed 50nl regs appear to be more sophisticated i.e: they will notice if you start shittng all over them. Or maybe I just suck at table selection.
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AFchung
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50NL is much more aggressive preflop
also people will fold top pair mid kicker to 3 barrels
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Originally Posted by jyms
Whatever you do, don"t start adding 4bet bluffs as part of your everyday arsenal at $50NL. It's still all about value. Just learn to find smaller portions of value. They would have to be 3betting monkeys with tight, tight 5bet/call ranges to make it worthwhile at these stakes
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you'll find a lot of 3b monkeys (10%+ 3b) with QQ+,AK felting ranges at NL100 a lot actually not sure about NL50
like you see TT or AQ getting felted almost never, jacks sometimes
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AFchung
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Originally Posted by jyms
Whatever you do, don"t start adding 4bet bluffs as part of your everyday arsenal at $50NL. It's still all about value. Just learn to find smaller portions of value. They would have to be 3betting monkeys with tight, tight 5bet/call ranges to make it worthwhile at these stakes
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you'll find a lot of 3b monkeys (10%+ 3b) with QQ+,AK felting ranges at NL100 a lot actually not sure about NL50
like you see TT or AQ getting felted almost never, jacks sometimes |
people are still folding queens. i watch a lot of the all in showdowns and its almost always KK+ unless its bvb. bvb stack off ranges are QQ+/AK
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