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donkfish

06-02-2010, 12:54 AM Post subject: 25NL - 3 Quick Hands

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This is my first time posting hands, so if I'm missing something here, lemme know.

Villian is 12/9 over ~50 hands with 0% 3bet so far and fairly aggressive postflop. I figure his range is solid here... JJ+, AK as standard 3bet range from the blinds.

$0.10/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
FullTiltPoker
8 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($25)
UTG+1 ($36.52)
MP1 ($30.23)
Hero ($25)
CO ($40.34)
BTN ($60.21)
SB ($81.85)
BB ($25)

Pre-Flop: ($0.35, 8 players) Hero is MP2

3 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, 3 folds, BB raises to $2.35, Hero calls $1.60

Flop:

($4.80, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn:

($4.80, 2 players)
BB bets $3, Hero calls $3

River:

($10.80, 2 players)
BB bets $4, Hero?

Villain here is a laggy 25/21 with 25% ATS from CO. He Cbets 83% and his AF is 3.7 over 84 hands. I'm ahead of his range here a lot but choose to call pre. I check/call the flop/turn to continue letting him bet his weak hand. However, when he fires again on the river, I'm pretty sure we're beat here. I mean, villain is aggro but not a maniac and I don't see many triple barrels at 25NL without a decent hand.

$0.10/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
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9 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($34.73)
UTG+1 ($59.30)
MP1 ($82.50)
MP2 ($26.45)
MP3 ($29.49)
CO ($36.08)
BTN ($28.18)
Hero ($25.40)
BB ($12.97)

Pre-Flop: ($0.35, 9 players) Hero is SB

5 folds, CO raises to $0.85, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.75, 1 fold

Flop:

($1.95, 2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $1.30, Hero calls $1.30

Turn:

($4.55, 2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $2.30, Hero calls $2.30

River:

($9.15, 2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $4.60, Hero?

Basically looking for a line check here. Villain seems somewhat fishy over a small sample. I feel his min-bet is bullshit, especially on this board. How much do I have to 3bet here to be committed if 4bet all-in? Is my flop 3bet too small given that villain's stack size?

$0.10/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
FullTiltPoker
9 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($29.76)
UTG+1 ($52.76)
MP1 ($17.16)
MP2 ($25.85)
MP3 ($25)
CO ($8.61)
BTN ($25.13)
Hero ($26.10)
BB ($17.50)

Pre-Flop: ($0.35, 9 players) Hero is SB

7 folds, Hero raises to $1, BB calls $0.75

Flop:

($2, 2 players)
Hero bets $1.25, BB raises to $2.50, Hero raises to $5.75, BB folds

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texa8

06-02-2010, 01:23 AM

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H1 - played fine IMO and i fold river. cant see him playing jacks in this way, busted flush draws like AsQx/Jx/10x we can expect to cbet this flop

H2 - shame the way the board ran out really.. cant really see much we are beating

H3 - i like the sizing tbh.. giving him the chance to come over the top if he percieves fold equity >0%.. in answer to your Q i would say that ANY sizing, once we decide to 3 bet, commits us. 3bet/folding with villains stack sizing bad imo

Imthenewfish

06-02-2010, 05:04 AM

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H1) played fine IMO and i call river. He's not checking AK on this flop, and not really any of his range beats you lol. Honestly I think he's making a timid thin value bet with jacks, queens, or AQ.
H2) I don't really see many hands in his range that that river helps. If you're going to be flatting the turn, you're hoping to keep him bluffing, so as played, call because I don't see why we call turn without the hope of him betting again.
H3) I'd raise more so that if he continues in the pot we're playing for stacks. I don't mind stacking off here. He had $14 after his raise, so a reraise to about 3.5x to $9 because I don't think he's folding many more hands to the $9 raise than the $5.75 raise, so I'd just try to commit him to the pot rather than play the turn in a bloated pot OOP

Tasha

06-02-2010, 02:49 PM

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For H1, doesn't this look like he is check-raising?

donkfish

06-02-2010, 09:20 PM

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Hand 1 is kinda weird because if he checked the river I'd most certainly be value betting, putting him squarely on JJ (maybe TT) and I'd expect a call with a 1/2 psb. He still could have JJ here, but just had a gut feeling he's got AK or better.

sportbike33

06-02-2010, 09:28 PM

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1. Fold. Your Beat.
2. Fold. Your Beat
3. Well Played

Carroters

06-02-2010, 09:47 PM

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1. Just fold the turn if this is likely to be his preflop range.

Board: Ks 7s 6s Th
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 22.119% 20.70% 01.42% 255 17.50 { QdQh }
Hand 1: 77.881% 76.46% 01.42% 942 17.50 { JJ+, AKs, AKo }

If this is still his range on the turn we have an easy fold, and we don't have a read to weight it more towards JJ (if anything I think he has AsKx, AsAx, KK here a lot and is getting "tricky" on the flop with this line) Our equity sucks ass, if you give him this narrow a range preflop then stick to it postflop. You are absolutely crushed on this board, he doesn't suddenly have enough air in his range for you to call the turn profitably.

As played fold river.

2. I'd fold the river. I think he has a lot of two pair, sets and maybe even Tx going for value with this sizing. Without reads we can't assume he has a bluff here often at all on this board. rest of the hand looks fine.

3. If you're raising this flop, then don't ever fold to a shove with these stack sizes b vs b since there are plenty draws as well as retarded stuff like 88 and A7 etc that he can jam. 3-betting the flop to get it in looks fine, I'd make it a bit bigger so he can't peel us with a draw so profitably, $7.50 looks good.

I'd also c-bet closer to pot, this will make it easier to town his draws and build a bigger pot with what's a pretty damn strong hand vs a loose fish's continuing range on this board. He'll peel you with gut shots, all pairs and maybe some random A high so make it like $1.50 and plan to bet bet bet if the board runs out alright.

Imthenewfish

06-02-2010, 10:21 PM

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Tasha- what part of his range is c/r the flop and why
sportbike - what's villains ranges and whats our equity against them

daven

06-03-2010, 04:01 AM

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hand 1 - fold turn.
hand 2 - fold river
hand 3 - don't show results. Bet flop bigger, 3b bigger

don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit
allin, reload, repeat

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Tasha

06-03-2010, 09:01 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Imthenewfish

Tasha- what part of his range is c/r the flop and why
sportbike - what's villains ranges and whats our equity against them

Not sure what you mean by 'what part of his range is c/r' but he could have Kx and wants to see if Hero has hit a flush.

donkfish

06-03-2010, 12:51 PM

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It's like what Carroters said:

Quote:

I think he has AsKx, AsAx, KK here a lot and is getting "tricky" on the flop with this line

And this is exactly why I checked behind because his range is so strong here. FWIW I folded the river.

As for hand 2, I actually called the river like a retard, and got value-towned by A7o.

Imthenewfish

06-03-2010, 10:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tasha

Not sure what you mean by 'what part of his range is c/r' but he could have Kx and wants to see if Hero has hit a flush.

Doesn't he want to get value from FD's here, and checking let's your opponent draw to it for free?

Tasha

06-15-2010, 08:21 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Imthenewfish

Doesn't he want to get value from FD's here, and checking let's your opponent draw to it for free?

Hmm, I'm not sure what you mean by that but it doesn't look like Villain is drawing for flush. Or did you mean Hero is try to draw for free?

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