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Old 05-06-2010, 02:31 PM     Post subject: 22 against LAgg OOP #1 (permalink)  
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Villain (BTN) is 62/38/1.4 (VPIP/PFR/Agg) over only 13 hands so I don't have much on him other than he (either for good reason or not) has put a lot into the pot lately. He seemed to have raised the last few hands off the flop as a possible scare tactic which worked.


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Stacks:
UTG Stegobule ($4.29)
UTG+1 Suerte5 ($1.11)
MP Melkor346 ($2)
CO Hero ($4.32)
BTN amazing67 ($4.21)
SB czaki2000 ($1.13)
BB sergvlad333 ($0.27)

Pre-Flop: ($0.03, 7 players) Hero is CO
3 folds, Hero calls $0.02, amazing67 raises to $0.08, 1 fold, sergvlad333 calls $0.06, Hero calls $0.06

Flop: ($0.25, 3 players)
sergvlad333 checks, Hero checks, amazing67 bets $0.14, sergvlad333 folds, Hero calls $0.14

Turn: ($0.53, 2 players)
Hero bets $0.34, amazing67 calls $0.34

River: ($1.21, 2 players)
Hero bets $1.06, amazing67 calls $1.06



Flop I checked on the flop and am now debating whether or not that was good. At the time I figured he may have something like 33+,JT+, Ax,Kx,Qx. All of which would fold to a bet on this kind of flop unless he has A8,K8,Q8. In checking I was thinking he would scare bet and I can call. Looking back at it I realized he had FD, but then again I wouldnt mind giving him odds on that anyway.


Turn The turn wouldn't improve his hand any more but I didn't think I could get him to bet again on the turn and would lose a street of value. Hey may still be holding out for the FD, or possibly think im bluffing because the card wouldn't help me either and I didn't bet off the flop.

River Now if he wasn't on the FD hes done for.. but if he is on the FD he will want to put alot in so I bet 9/10 pot. Now looking back on this I should have pushed him because if he didn't have anything its a fold and if he had the flush he would have to call.
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Old 05-06-2010, 03:20 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Old 05-06-2010, 03:32 PM #3 (permalink)  
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 I might donk the flop with the hopes that he would raise.
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Old 05-06-2010, 03:56 PM #4 (permalink)  
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 i think you played the hand well but i'm thinking there's got to be a better way to get more money into the pot. I think the pot should have been bigger on the turn so that you could have bet more into it without making it look like you had a monster hand.
not sure if betting on the flop would make villain raise, probably not since he bet so small and i think checking wasn't really bad cause you have two players behind you and a good chance one of them will bet. not sure if maybe a min-raise would keep him in the pot and set up for a bigger turn bet?
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Old 05-06-2010, 04:07 PM #5 (permalink)  
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 Santo, if we donked the we wouldn't have known that the villain would have bet smallish. OP stated that villain has raised people off their hand on the flop, and that's why I consider donking. (Unless raise is being used in the wrong context)
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Old 05-06-2010, 04:47 PM #6 (permalink)  
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 @jr.. i know what you're saying. that's a good point that on the previous hands he was raising and I missed that.. But i do understand what OP was trying to accomplish by checking, i'm just wondering if a minraise would have looked to strong to villain or if villain would have thought it was some weird bluff attempt
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Old 05-06-2010, 05:05 PM #7 (permalink)  
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 I think you're right about check/raising here though Santo. He's likely to cbet with much of his range. Also, I often see this on paired boards as bluffs, as so few hands are likely to have hit.

I don't want to bet too heavy handed as we don't want folds from decent hands. I'm thinking of raising to $.32-$.36 though, great odds for a flush draw, 8x will either 3bet/call, and he may still call with stronger PP's
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Old 05-06-2010, 05:30 PM #8 (permalink)  
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 If he's raising a lot of flops I like leading for like $0.15-0.20 then maybe 3 betting an amount that he will still call with a flush draw. Lead/call might also be ok since if he has an 8 he'll be betting the turn and we can c/r + we get a bit more from his air and allow him to make a flush sometimes.

As played bet turn bigger - his calling range won't change that much.
 
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Old 05-08-2010, 05:56 PM #9 (permalink)  
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If you donk the flop and he raises you're usually taking the turn headsup. If you check the flop and he bets (I think he will cbet that flop 99.5% of the time. 0.5% of the time he has an 8 and tries some retarded slowplay). Knowing that he is going to play the flop aggressively, I think trying to squeeze chips out of sergvlad333 may be the best way to get value from this hand. When sergvlad folds I think that just calling and hoping that he improves his hand is the best option. Bet on the turn was important to build the pot for a larger river bet because the pot will be too small for a nice bet if he checks behind. FD got there on the river. It is 2nl so he may have called the turn with 2 overs, but I think a river shove is gonna get max value from a flush, and I don't think he's gonna fold an 8 no matter how much you bet.
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