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djzcko
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10-15-2007, 02:08 PM
Post subject: 200BB's Deep, KK allin?
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You are holding KK in MP and have 200BB's....UTG with 100BB's raises 4x, you 3 bet and then Button goes insta allin with 200BB's. UTG folds. This is $50NL FR and you have no reads on villain...he just joined the table. Hero? Is this AK, QQ, KK enough to be +EV? Or is this AA every time?
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bigspenda73
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This better be AP where you can buy-in 200bb deep or you should certainly have some kind of read.
Either way, gross spot, I generally lean towards calling here.
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martindcx1e
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Lol @ he just joined the table with 200bb's. Normally I fold this for 200bb's vs. sane opponents.
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Fnord
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It depends. For what it's worth, I try to avoid playing 200 deep in games where this isn't a no-brainer either way.
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BankItDrew
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I only call if it's an easy decision. Sounds like a spot I avoid, so folding seems best. You have to have a good enough read in this spot to make the difficult decisions, and since you don't have any reads...
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Robb
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by BankItDrew
I only call if it's an easy decision. Sounds like a spot I avoid, so folding seems best. You have to have a good enough read in this spot to make the difficult decisions, and since you don't have any reads...
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I'm with Drew. I'm working hard lately on getting away from hard decisions against total unknowns. They are too costly, imo. I fold against ANY huge bet until I've played 30 or 40 hands against someone and have SOME kind of read. Or I try to. Wish I was better at it!
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mixchange
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if he just joined the table you have to call.
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Miffed22001
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Fnord
It depends. For what it's worth, I try to avoid playing 200 deep in games where this isn't a no-brainer either way.
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this quote has all the answers. On AP its a no-brainer fold.
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