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Old 04-19-2009, 10:37 PM     Post subject: 2 pair vs Turn Aggression #1 (permalink)  
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Only been at the table for one orbit, villain seemed to limp call most hands. My plan on the turn was to bet/fold, however with 3-1 pot odds I made the call, not sure it was correct at all.

Probably a standard hand.

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MP3 ($1.99)
CO ($5.10)
Button ($0.80)
Hero (SB) ($2.14)
BB ($2.49)
UTG ($7.48)
UTG+1 ($4.32)
MP1 ($2.78)
MP2 ($2)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A, K
2 folds, MP1 calls $0.02, 1 fold, MP3 calls $0.02, 1 fold, Button calls $0.02, Hero bets $0.14, 2 folds, MP3 calls $0.12, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.34) 7, A, K (2 players)
Hero bets $0.26, MP3 calls $0.26

Turn: ($0.86) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.60, MP3 raises to $1.59 (All-In), Hero calls $0.99

River: ($4.04) 4 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $4.04
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Old 04-19-2009, 10:56 PM #2 (permalink)  
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after you bet the turn you're already pot committed
can't fold, especially given the fact that he probaby plays a lot of Ax that has two pair on the turn
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Old 04-20-2009, 02:33 AM #3 (permalink)  
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You're probably beat, but I'd call anyhow.

Villian probably has the flush, but he could be overplaying a lot of other things.
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Old 04-20-2009, 12:44 PM #4 (permalink)  
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very easy call
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Old 04-20-2009, 02:10 PM #5 (permalink)  
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snap call. hope he flips over AxXs but we're too committed after the turn bet
 
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Old 04-20-2009, 03:18 PM #6 (permalink)  
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Could even be AQ or AK who thinks you're going to 3 barrel so he's putting it all in. There's no way that this is only a made flush enough times to warrant folding with the pot odds you're getting.
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Old 04-20-2009, 08:26 PM #7 (permalink)  
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mostly 2 pairs are not good enough but you have to call in this hand.
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Old 04-20-2009, 09:20 PM #8 (permalink)  

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Easy call, I don't buy that he has the flush from calling a 7x preflop raise with suited connecters.

I dont see him staying in with pocket 5's after your raise on the flop...

I see him with a A Q, A J with the Q, J a spade.

This would be a perfectly played AA or KK but most people would have re-raised before the turn...
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Old 04-20-2009, 10:16 PM #9 (permalink)  
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I'd call, but agree that you're probably beat.
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Old 04-21-2009, 01:50 AM #10 (permalink)  
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Easy call, I don't buy that he has the flush from calling a 7x preflop raise with suited connecters.

I dont see him staying in with pocket 5's after your raise on the flop...

I see him with a A Q, A J with the Q, J a spade.

This would be a perfectly played AA or KK but most people would have re-raised before the turn...
perfectly played AA/KK would be raising this flop, if not preflop.
 
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Old 04-21-2009, 06:16 AM #11 (permalink)  

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I think before you bet on the turn, you should think about how likely it is that he's got you beat. I'll leave it to others who have a better idea what they're talking about to get into exactly what his range is here, but if you're thinking he might have had a flush draw, you have to figure a big raise is coming if you bet here. If you think he might be weak, go ahead and bet bigger. The problem with the $0.60 bet is that you're still pot committed if he raises you, and you don't have the fold equity you'd get on a bigger bet.

I might check the turn and see what he does. Of course, he might shove all in, in which case you're still in pretty much the same spot, but you have a little more information without having invested the extra money.
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