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Old 04-30-2009, 02:44 PM     Post subject: 2 pair vs LAG #1 (permalink)  
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vs. a 93/23/1.3

Correct play?

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MP2 ($9.30)
CO ($4.25)
Button ($25)
SB ($25.90)
Hero (BB) ($39.15)
UTG ($25.50)
MP1 ($52.70)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6, 7
2 folds, MP2 calls $0.25, 2 folds, SB bets $0.50, Hero calls $0.25, MP2 calls $0.25

Flop: ($1.50) 7, K, 6 (3 players)
SB bets $0.50, Hero raises to $2, MP2 calls $2, SB raises to $3.50, Hero raises to $10, 1 fold, SB calls $6.50

Turn: ($23.50) 9 (2 players)
SB bets $4, Hero raises to $17.50, SB calls $11.40 (All-In)

River: ($54.30) 2 (2 players, 1 all-in)

13/10 TAG

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MP2 ($15)
MP3 ($4.85)
CO ($5.75)
Button ($25.85)
SB ($14.30)
BB ($28.90)
Hero (UTG) ($24.80)
UTG+1 ($25)
MP1 ($7.85)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A, A
Hero bets $1, 5 folds, Button calls $1, SB calls $0.90, BB calls $0.75

Flop: ($4) 5, 9, Q (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $2.75, Button calls $2.75, 2 folds

Turn: ($9.50) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $5.50, Hero?
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Old 04-30-2009, 02:51 PM #2 (permalink)  
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vs a 22/14/inf only 41 hands

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UTG ($5.25)
UTG+1 ($27.70)
MP1 ($25)
Hero (MP2) ($25)
CO ($4.65)
Button ($18.05)
SB ($26.30)
BB ($26.75)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 6, 7
3 folds, Hero bets $1, 1 fold, Button calls $1, 2 folds

Flop: ($2.35) 9, 8, 10 (2 players)
Hero bets $1.50, Button raises to $3.50, Hero raises to $9, Button raises to $17.05 (All-In), Hero calls $8.05

Turn: ($36.45) 7 (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($36.45) Q (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $36.45 | Rake: $1.80
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Old 04-30-2009, 05:43 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Hand 1 is std IMO.

Hand 2: what was your plan when checking turn? if the answer is pot control, then c/c looks fine, planning to c/c a reasonable river bet. His range includes AQ, KQ, QJs, JTs, 67s, JJ-TT, and maybe KK, QTs and A9s as well as 55,99,QQ.

Actually, after thinking about villains range, a b/f line would be better if you know he likes to call his strong hands on the flop and raise them by the turn. This line is cheaper than c/c, c/c, when behind and it gets about the same value provided you bet river or c/c against his weaker holdings(and missed draws). Again, this is only if you think villain is raising a turn bet with the top of his range.

Hand 3: fine
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 settecba - you might want to rethink villain's range in hand 2
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I suck with hand ranges and Im trying to improve...maybe give me some clue K? thanks...
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 I think you might want to eliminate a few of the weaker hands from his range from calling preflop (a Tag likely isn't calling A9s for example to an EP raise, even if he has strong postflop reads on hero), and also remember his preflop callling range and his flop calling range will likely be different unless he's a constant 'float without much purpose machine'.
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Ok. Thanks. Just to clarify, I was giving his flop calling range. Whats wrong with the following range? AQ, KQs, QJs, JTs,TT-JJ, 55, 99, QQ.

I can see how this could be wrong, since villain would probably raise some part of this range(or could he have a very unbalanced range and not raise anything in this spot?)

Again its all questions because I suck at ranges, so please help me.

FWIW: 67s was in the original range i gave villain because i can see a TAG floating a TAG´s cbet HU hoping to hit or take the pot down by the turn against weakness. I forgot about the other 2 players left to act.
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 First off not all TAGs are the same or play with the same ranges. This guy is 13/10. That's really tight. Usually when tight players play hands I put them on a mid/lower PP like always. Especially 13/10. This means he's raising 77% of the time he's entering a pot preflop so really his PREflop calling range is really small and I always put thinking players (albeit really tight) with PP in their calling range. You can't just look at the flop and then give him a range, you start preflop.
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First off not all TAGs are the same or play with the same ranges. This guy is 13/10. That's really tight. Usually when tight players play hands I put them on a mid/lower PP like always. Especially 13/10. This means he's raising 77% of the time he's entering a pot preflop so really his PREflop calling range is really small and I always put thinking players (albeit really tight) with PP in their calling range. You can't just look at the flop and then give him a range, you start preflop.
Extremely good point. I like the idea of this because he will be raising the better hands of his range, while he will be just calling with mid/low PP's. Great point. I'll say what each hand resulted in a little later.
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