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WhileTrue

07-28-2005, 12:53 AM Post subject: 2 HH's - are my mistakes obvious?

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Join Date: Jul 2005

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***** Hand History for Game 2434778323 *****
0/0 Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) - Wed Jul 27 20:38:28 EDT 2005
Table Table 37574 (Real Money) -- Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: Blisfik ( $31.55)
Seat 2: looser303 ( $18.30)
Seat 3: Synchroncity ( $28.65)
Seat 4: CHADGRIFF ( $50.45)
Seat 5: TheRock_Says ( $51.50)
Seat 6: deli315 ( $40.75)
Seat 7: dhs038 ( $33.15)
Seat 8: dragonace555 ( $5.75)
Seat 9: DevDir ( $20.15)
Seat 10: TexasPoker83 ( $21.06)
looser303 posts small blind (0.10)
CHADGRIFF posts big blind (0.25)

** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to DevDir [ Kh, 8h ]
TheRock_Says calls (0.25)
deli315 calls (0.25)
dhs038 folds.
dragonace555 calls (0.25)
DevDir calls (0.25)
TexasPoker83 folds.
Blisfik calls (0.25)
looser303 folds.
CHADGRIFF checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 8c, 5d, 4s ]
CHADGRIFF checks.
TheRock_Says checks.
deli315 bets (1.60)
dragonace555 folds.
DevDir raises (3.20) to 3.20
Blisfik folds.
CHADGRIFF folds.
TheRock_Says folds.
deli315 calls (1.60)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 2h ]
deli315 checks.
DevDir bets (4)
deli315 calls (4)
** Dealing River ** : [ Qh ]
deli315 checks.
DevDir checks.

** Summary **
Main Pot: $15.20 | Rake: $0.80
Board: [ 8c 5d 4s 2h Qh ]
Blisfik balance $31.30, lost $0.25 (folded)
looser303 balance $18.20, lost $0.10 (folded)
Synchroncity balance $28.65, sits out
CHADGRIFF balance $50.20, lost $0.25 (folded)
TheRock_Says balance $51.25, lost $0.25 (folded)
deli315 balance $48.50, bet $7.45, collected $15.20, net +$7.75 [ 9h 9d ] [ a pair of nines -- Qh,9h,9d,8c,5d ]
dhs038 balance $33.15, didn't bet (folded)
dragonace555 balance $5.50, lost $0.25 (folded)
DevDir balance $12.70, lost $7.45 [ Kh 8h ] [ a pair of eights -- Kh,Qh,8h,8c,5d ]
TexasPoker83 balance $21.06, didn't bet (folded)

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WhileTrue

07-28-2005, 12:53 AM

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Join Date: Jul 2005

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***** Hand History for Game 2434793191 *****
0/0 Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) - Wed Jul 27 20:41:01 EDT 2005
Table Table 37292 (Real Money) -- Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: SylvainA ( $37.40)
Seat 2: schres ( $43.48)
Seat 3: DevDir ( $26.60)
Seat 4: Dreamz407 ( $18.22)
Seat 5: thb04 ( $26.45)
Seat 6: Rhchi ( $48)
Seat 7: awbing ( $58.73)
Seat 8: X_Factor07 ( $25)
Seat 9: lcpaulson ( $28.20)
Seat 10: haddock3045 ( $53.51)
lcpaulson posts small blind (0.10)
haddock3045 posts big blind (0.25)

** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to DevDir [ 6s, Ad ]
SylvainA calls (0.25)
schres folds.
DevDir raises (1) to 1
Dreamz407 calls (1)
thb04 calls (1)
Rhchi folds.
awbing folds.
lcpaulson folds.
haddock3045 folds.
SylvainA calls (0.75)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Ks, Jc, Qs ]
SylvainA checks.
DevDir bets (2)
Dreamz407 raises (4) to 4
thb04 folds.
SylvainA folds.
DevDir folds.

** Summary **
Main Pot: $9.95 | Rake: $0.40
Board: [ Ks Jc Qs ]
SylvainA balance $36.40, lost $1 (folded)
schres balance $43.48, didn't bet (folded)
DevDir balance $23.60, lost $3 (folded)
Dreamz407 balance $23.17, bet $5, collected $9.95, net +$4.95
thb04 balance $25.45, lost $1 (folded)
Rhchi balance $48, didn't bet (folded)
awbing balance $58.73, didn't bet (folded)
X_Factor07 balance $25, sits out
lcpaulson balance $28.10, lost $0.10 (folded)
haddock3045 balance $53.26, lost $0.25 (folded)

biondino

07-28-2005, 10:23 AM

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Your mistakes are playing the hands at all - fold pre-flop on both.

At a push, the first hand is playable, but you didn't play it very well. The guy you are facing has put in a more than pot-sized bet, so he's at least repping strength - 2 pair, maybe, or an overpair. So your raise is too weak - you're not pushing him hard, you're not giving him bad pot odds, and if he has a half-decent hand he's likely to call. Your bet on the turn is at least a decent size (still only half the pot though), but the 2h was SO unlikely to have helped you that he could call it with confidence. The only chance you have here is to push on the river when an overcard comes - but at this level I expect he'd probably call you anyway.

You totally deserved to lose the second hand. It's a simple fact - A6o from early position should never ever ever be played in a 10-handed ring game. Ever.

bluedevil907

07-28-2005, 10:26 AM Post subject: My first post on here...

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Posts: 146

Well, I'm still a beginner myself, only been playing Real Money for about a week, but I did see what I'd personally consider mistakes with both hands (this is without yet knowing the .25 tables.):

In the first one, you flopped a medium top pair with a great kicker, but I would've been a bit more cautious since he opened with a pot sized bet and a good number of players in the hand. Maybe he's just trying to scare everyone away, but with the possibility of an overpair or a set backing the bet up, I probably would have stepped away at that point. However, if you observed him to be a very loose, aggressive player, then I could see the call being a bit safer, but still pretty dangerous.

On the second, I personally wouldn't have played that hand, much less raised it, so you weren't too well off from the start. The 3 faces that flopped, while giving you a straight draw, also paired any decent hand in the mix. Since everyone was folowing your 4xBB into the flop, one of them probably hit a pair, maybe even a two pair, so regardless of who would do the raising you'd likely have to fold anyways.

Hope it helped, and feel free to disagree, like I said, I'm fairly new to poker myself.

Greedo017

07-28-2005, 11:05 AM

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fold preflop both hands. these hands are good examples of reasons why you fold these preflop.

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EasyT

07-28-2005, 05:05 PM

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Yeah, you're a little too impatient. Wait for better spots to put your money in. Disciplined beginners get better. Undisciplined beginners bust out.

As you start out, try to learn how to play tight/aggressive. Your VP$IP% (voluntarily put money in the pot percentage) should be 25% at the most. 20% would be even better. (>15% is UBER-TIGHT).

If you don't know what your VP$IP % is, get PokerTracker. It's free for 1,000 hands still as far as I know.

EasyT

outphase

07-28-2005, 11:43 PM

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I'm sure you're learning that those 2 hands, while looking sexy with the A or K, become ugly with the kicker. Fold preflop

Quote:

Originally Posted by lambchopdc

Lets stop talking ABC poker and move on to D, E, and F.

Phlegm

07-29-2005, 06:04 AM

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I personally like the limp with Kxs with all those limpers + position for flush value, but thats just me

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