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Vinland

01-10-2009, 05:14 AM Post subject: 2 hands needing advice...

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These situations are my undoing. I have something (high pair or a good piece of the flop) but the board looks dangerous to me.

This first hand was the very first hand I played. I have no HUD and no reads on player since I just started. After the hand he played tight and didn't play alot which leads me to think he was deliberate and conservative.

PokerStars Game #23747706919: Hold'em No Limit ($0.01/$0.02)
9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: UTG+1($4.92 in chips)
Seat 2: UTG2 ($2.97 in chips)
Seat 3: UTG3 ($4.18 in chips)
Seat 4: Hero ($2.97 in chips)
Seat 5: UTG5 ($1.97 in chips)
Seat 6: SB ($0.72 in chips)
Seat 8: BB ($5.06 in chips)
Seat 9: UTG ($1.79 in chips)
SB: posts small blind $0.01
BB: posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Qs Qc]
UTG: folds
UTG+1: folds
UTG2: folds
UTG3: folds
Hero: raises $0.08 to $0.10
UTG5: folds
SB: folds
BB: calls $0.08
*** FLOP *** [Ts Jd Jh]
BB: checks
Hero: bets $0.20
BB: raises $0.40 to $0.60
Hero: calls $0.40
*** TURN *** [Ts Jd Jh] [4c]
BB: bets $1
Hero: ??

Given his play after this hand I am thinking he wasn't just making a move. However he could of had K10+, A10+, TT+ from what I can imagine...
I didn't think I could just call, it was either fold or all-in.

Next hand: Different Villain

PokerStars Game #23748390114: Hold'em No Limit ($0.01/$0.02)
Seat 1: UTG4 ($5.03 in chips)
Seat 2: Button ($2.22 in chips)
Seat 3: SB ($4.81 in chips)
Seat 4: Hero ($2.27 in chips)
Seat 6: Villain ($0.88 in chips)
Seat 7: UTG1 ($2.43 in chips)
Seat 8: UTG2 ($5.54 in chips)
Seat 9: UTG3 ($2.04 in chips)
SB: posts small blind $0.01
Hero: posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Markland999 [Tc Kh]
Villain: calls $0.02
UTG1: calls $0.02
UTG2: folds
UTG3: folds
UTG4: calls $0.02
Button: folds
SB: folds
Hero: checks
*** FLOP *** [Ks 9s 5c]
Hero: bets $0.10
Villain: calls $0.10
UTG1: folds
UTG4: folds
*** TURN *** [Ks 9s 5c] [4s]
Hero: bets $0.25
Villain: calls $0.25
*** RIVER *** [Ks 9s 5c 4s] [8s]
Hero: checks
Villain: bets $0.42
Hero

?

This also happened fairly early in the session so I didn't have a lot of reads on him. However I thought he was generally more loose than the others and as the session went on he continued to play quite loose, he saw lots of flops. I had seen him play a few pots where he bet strongly with TP but bad kicker.
I put his range on: K5+, 77+, Q10+, possibly mid to high suited connectors.
His smooth calls just told me he was going for the draw...
Should I have folded PF? Should I have raised preflop? Should I have called?

Your feedback is appreciated

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oskar

01-10-2009, 05:25 AM

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Use the hand converter please (link to your left).
As short stacked as you are, I think you need to push the flop. If you call you have to stack off.

Second hand I really don't know. I'm pretty sure you're beat... most of his range is either 2pair, flush, set or even a straight. I don't see him valuebetting worse, and I don't see what he would call down/bluff the river with. There are players at micro stakes who would value bet like 92 here, so it depends on notes. Against unkown I think it's a pretty standard fold.

The strengh of a hero is defined by the weakness of his villains.

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