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eragotte

01-26-2010, 11:01 PM Post subject: 2 hands...

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So this one Im just clueless... So originally I thought villain was a horrible aggro tard, saw him stack off with AK on a J102 flop and also 3bet squeeze KQo from bb, gets one caller and he fires a flop cbet and a turn shove with no pair (turned a Q high FD) but the other guy has a flush (who was a huge fish, so he was dumb enough to try and bluff the table station). but other than these two hands he seems pretty solid, maybe he just spazzes?

but he is def capable of bluffing, 3betting light, and calling/4betting as he sees fit. He hasn't been tricky with a big hand flatting a 3bet as far as I have seen. He flats the 3bet so I rule out JJ+ and am confident in this. Im not sure if he 4bets AQ, he might because my image is attrocious and he probably should think Im too cally and also 3betting too light. I dont want to bet the flop because he will rarely flat, he will raise his AQ but also sometimes reraise bluff and once he does I probably have to give up. Id rather check call and let him spazz. so he bets, his range is wide, like 55-1010, AQ,KQ maybe QJs, some random AsJs type hands and air. On the turn the range doesn't change much to me so I call again to reevaluate river. Maybe I should be raising but I figured anything i beat folds although he often has overs when he has air and i should make him pay for flushdraw or other outs maybe? anyways I get to river planning to snap off any non K, A, spade river and try to use timing tells if a spade comes. so anyways river comes and he throws me off, he bet flop and turn super quick, river he thinks for maybe 5-8 seconds then fires just under my stack, making me think he wants me to call? what do you think? all i can put him on is like 99/44/maybe AQ? or bluffs

iPoker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) - iPoker Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Hero (SB) ($98.45)
BB ($97.04)
UTG ($53.56)
MP ($10)
CO ($101.03)
Button ($47.27)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J

, J

2 folds, CO bets $1.75, 1 fold, Hero raises to $6.50, 1 fold, CO calls $4.75

Flop: ($13.50) 4

, 9

, Q

(2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $8, Hero calls $8

Turn: ($29.50) 7

(2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $22, Hero calls $22

River: ($73.50) 4

(2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $54

Total pot: $73.50

this hand is more simple, this dudes been 3betting more then his share and generally doesnt seem that great. I flat to be a little deceptive and tricky, and just to try it. I have a horrible image on this table too, (stacked off with A10 on a K53 flop where i got looked up by qq) so i think he calls me light. when he flats my turn c/minraise i think he has like 33-99 and Im going to own the shit outa him, what do u think?

iPoker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) - iPoker Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Button ($50)
Hero (SB) ($107.65)
BB ($80.96)
UTG ($76.55)
MP ($9.25)
CO ($75)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q

, Q

2 folds, CO bets $1.50, Button raises to $5.25, Hero calls $5, 2 folds

Flop: ($12.50) 7

, 7

, 2

(2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $7.50, Hero raises to $15, Button calls $7.50

Turn: ($42.50) 5

(2 players)
Hero bets $87.40 (All-In)

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spoonitnow

01-27-2010, 12:42 AM

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Wrong forum.

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eragotte

01-27-2010, 12:55 AM

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I debated which to post it in.. I feel like they are probably beginner spots and Im a beginner despite it being 50nl. I have no problem with it being moved though.

kmind

01-27-2010, 02:06 AM

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Hand 1: Flop is pretty damn bad I like c/c. Turn is meh I guess fold.

Hand 2: I don't mind flop though I think calling can be ok. Turn is a shove as played.

eragotte

01-27-2010, 03:21 AM

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Quote:

Hand 1: Flop is pretty damn bad I like c/c. Turn is meh I guess fold.

can you elaborate here a bit? this dude has shown a huge propensity to fire two barrels every time he fires one, if I know he is firing the second should i c/r the flop or something since im gonna feel like nothing has changed on the turn and my range is still stronger?

kmind

01-27-2010, 04:17 AM

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Meh yeah calling flop vs. double barrelers and folding turn is bad. It just sucks...he has a set/TP/OESD/FD so often. 7h isn't the greatest card but it does give him another set that he was bluffing with on the flop. I just think he has shit too often. After stoving it looks like call turn/fold river like you did. I'm wondering if you can just b/c flop but that's pretty high variance.

Donachello

01-27-2010, 02:40 PM

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Donachello will become famous soon enough

Hand 1: Def either b/f the flop or c/r it. By c/cing you are letting him dictate how the hand plays out and his hand never really defines itself. I don't really see him donking just over 2/3s pot for 3 streets with nothing but you could have made it a lot easier by popping that flop bet. I mean, if you pop it what continues that called you pre? FDs which probably won't donk again on the turn, and AQ, AK(maybe), KQ, and sets which will donk again most likely on the blank turn.

Hand 2: fine

[00:29] <daven> dc, why not check turn behind
[00:30] <DC> daven
[00:30] <DC> on my hand?
[00:30] <daven> yep
[00:30] <DC> because I am drunk
[00:30] <daven> nice reason
[00:30] <daven> no further questions
[00:30] <yaawn> ^^Lol

Problem officer...?

eragotte

01-27-2010, 03:12 PM

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Quote:

I'm wondering if you can just b/c flop but that's pretty high variance.

i dont mind high variance (Id probably take this line with 100bb stacks) but note that we both have 200bb and if i get it in on the flop im fcked

Quote:

or c/r it

so are you saying if I c/r flop and he calls i c/f turn?

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