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JoeHaw

08-29-2009, 10:47 PM Post subject: 15k at 5nl FR stats

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EDIT: cold call = 11.5
14.8
8.5
8.6
10.1
11.0

I'm really frustrated with my 5ptBB because I know I should be making way more than that, and I make less at 5nl than I did at 2nl.
Am I playing too loose?, I think my fold to cbet is too low and cbet a bit high, right? I don't think I give people enough credit for made hands. is the 55% to win when all in stat really bad?

Do you guys think I should just start nitting it up and worry about getting my showdown winnings up and stop trying to win to many pots? I feel I've been pretty successful with stealing, lately I've isoing 30+/>10 limpers otb and in the cutoff a lot wider, like A7s and stuff.

Something tells me my showdown winnings should be much higher.

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daven

08-30-2009, 06:47 AM Post subject: Re: 15k at 5nl stats

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Originally Posted by JoeHaw

[I'm really frustrated with my 5ptBB

dude, 5ptBB/100 is just fine. Be really frustrated when you're breakeven.

Don't go changing much at all, your game looks well equipped to be moving up to 10nl once bankroll permits.

I'm sure some 6-max regs will chime in shortly.

don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit
allin, reload, repeat

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JoeHaw

08-30-2009, 07:30 AM

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This is actually 75% FR

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daven

08-30-2009, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeHaw

This is actually 75% FR

cool, post a proper position report for the Full Ring hands (filter on >6 players) then and i'll take a closer look
report and how to set it up are somewhere in the link below
http://www.holdemmanager.net/forum/showthread.php?t=311

first thoughts
1) tighten up in EP
2) steal a little less (unusual advice!)
3) stop getting it in so light, on average you're only 50-50 in all-in situations, seems kinda spew to me. Investigate hands where you were all-in before the river AND called the all-in.

don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit
allin, reload, repeat

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JoeHaw

08-30-2009, 04:50 PM

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Sorry they aren't in order, that's the way it was when I imported the new report file and it's not gonna let me change them. sb bb ep2 ep3 mp1 mp2 mp3 CO BUT

1) The irc guys helped me decide to drop 22-66 in EP from now on

2) If a cbet is taking it down half the time that the steal isn't successful, and I cbet say 30% of the 42% where the steal isnt succesful, 15%+58%= 73% winning, isn't that enough when I'm opening 2.5-3x for most steals and only sometimes 4x? Or are you saying that the stealing will be more profitable if I do it less?

3) Yeah, this for sure I'll work on.

daven

08-30-2009, 07:33 PM

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Sorry they aren't in order, that's the way it was when I imported the new report file and it's not gonna let me change them.

just click on the field header and they'll sort for you

Quote:

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1) The irc guys helped me decide to drop 22-66 in EP from now on

keep playing black fives obviously

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeHaw

2) If a cbet is taking it down half the time that the steal isn't successful, and I cbet say 30% of the 42% where the steal isnt succesful, 15%+58%= 73% winning, isn't that enough when I'm opening 2.5-3x for most steals and only sometimes 4x? Or are you saying that the stealing will be more profitable if I do it less?

just thinking that at some stage you'll be up against people who 3-bet from the blinds. Keep stealing like a monkey until it becomes a problem

don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit
allin, reload, repeat

please read: http://www.philgalfond.com/lets-make-some-changes/

JoeHaw

08-30-2009, 08:49 PM

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Are you completely joking about the black fives or do you think the balancing would matter? I'm thinking there isn't a huge EV difference in playing the 22-66 in ep anyways.

08-30-2009, 08:59 PM

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[ ] 5 ptbb
[x] 5 bb

I can tell by your red line, your WTSD, your agg%, your AF that you're just like "I don't know what to do so I bet"

Do you ever c/c turn after betting flop? Do you ever check the turn back to induce a bluff on the river? A lot of the time it's better to try to show your hand down instead of blowing your opponent's air out of the pot.

surviva316

08-30-2009, 09:24 PM

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fold to 3b % seems really low given it's 5NL FR. people are like never 3b'ing light there so i don't think you need to continue with anything wider than JJ+, AK very often (obv sometimes you do, but not enough to justify near 50%).

i thought it was standard to be ~50% with W$SD? shouldn't you be looking someone up if you're good against 33% of his range the vast majority of the time?

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JoeHaw

08-30-2009, 10:36 PM

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It actually is 5 ptbb...
But you're right about the blowing opponents air out of the pot, I just always worry about freecards

Chopper

08-30-2009, 11:41 PM

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1.. too aggro and overplaying some of your hands by bloating pots when others can just c/c you down and float or fold when they are likely behind. you are blowing them out with constant aggression....that is hurting your rate a tad.

2.. learn to induce bluffs with marginal hands.

LHE is a game where your skill keeps you breakeven until you hit your rush of random BS.

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