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Pants_101
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08-24-2006, 08:03 PM
Post subject: A 10s
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So what about the pf raise - should I just limp or is it ok?
On the flop I'm getting huge odds and have 2 overs and a back door flush so I assume the call is ok?
On the turn the BB is saying he has something and I don't so I fold - sensible? Is there any point trying to rep the king?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
UTG ($1.92)
UTG+1 ($1.95)
MP1 ($1.74)
MP2 ($0.97)
CO ($1.43)
Hero ($8.04)
SB ($5.81)
BB ($1.70)
Preflop: Hero is Button with A , T.
2 folds, MP1 calls $0.02, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.1, 1 fold, BB calls $0.08, MP1 calls $0.08.
Flop: ($0.31) 6, 8 , 3 (3 players)
BB bets $0.06, MP1 calls $0.06, Hero calls $0.06.
Turn: ($0.49) K (3 players)
BB bets $0.1, MP1 folds, Hero folds.
Final Pot: $0.59
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bruinblue
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the raise is fine - i limp there most of the time, but you could also make a very strong argument for raising preflop to knock out the blinds - youve def got a better hand than limper, cuz at the penny tables, AJo is good enough for a PF AI.
im not a huge fan of the call on the flop - youre the PF aggressor, be aggressive! bump it up and see. if he comes back over, you know he flopped top 2 or some shit and you can get off it.
more likely, hes got T6o and youll take it down
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zook
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I like the PF raise, but you should raise or fold the flop. If BB or MP1 are calling stations, a fold's ok. If you think you have fold equity raise to $0.40 or so. I would lean toward a raise, but I haven't played micro-stakes and I imagine there are a lot of calling stations.
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Pants_101
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More aggression on the flop sounds good, I'll try that next time.
cheers
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Ash256
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Nah, watch the aggression. If I were you, I'd fold that flop. Just play your cards at those stakes. You'll probably get called a lot of the time, merely because a lot of players at that level can't actually seem to push any other button.
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Sprayed
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Originally Posted by Ash256
Nah, watch the aggression. If I were you, I'd fold that flop. Just play your cards at those stakes. You'll probably get called a lot of the time, merely because a lot of players at that level can't actually seem to push any other button.
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I like the above line better at micros. If folded to you pre-flop, the raise there is fine. I would generally call with the rest of them and just see a flop. Playing your position by raising a mediocre hand in micros just doesn't work IMO. Players will call down with anything therefore it's best to play standard ABC poker and just pump the pot when you hit your hand. They'll pay you off.
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Pants_101
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I suspect you are right. I'll play it strictly by the book until I win consistently then try to move up to slightly more interesting limits. One question what sort of high cards do you generally call raises with in early, middle or late assuming a raise by a loose player? I'll call with a pair to try to hit a set and probably re-raise with AA KK or AKs. What about something like AJs? Or AQs? AKo? Is J10s ever worth a call if others have called already?
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Sprayed
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Originally Posted by Pants_101
I suspect you are right. I'll play it strictly by the book until I win consistently then try to move up to slightly more interesting limits. One question what sort of high cards do you generally call raises with in early, middle or late assuming a raise by a loose player? I'll call with a pair to try to hit a set and probably re-raise with AA KK or AKs. What about something like AJs? Or AQs? AKo? Is J10s ever worth a call if others have called already?
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I'll call raises with AJ+, all pp, and most suited connectors. I will usually reraise with QQ+ and AK. However, it is normally read dependant and if I am seeing someone getting out of line, I will reraise instead of call with AJ, AQ, TT-JJ, and sometimes KQ. I try to stay away from calling raises with A2-A10 only because if I hit an A I don't know where I am at. I try not to play a small Ax because they are difficult to play and they will get you in trouble. Sometimes I will call a raise with Axs and look for a good draw when I'm in position. One thing to note, calling raises with the marginal hands that I mentioned may not be profitable if your opponents don't have a stack behind them. Make sure you have the implied odds of taking a big stack if you happen to hit big.
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Pants_101
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I've been folding A2-A9 even with only limpers before me but maybe that's too tight? Like you say I could easily be outkicked and it's hard to tell so I just don't bother. I suppose if it's folded to me in late position I could try playing them
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Ash256
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Originally Posted by Pants_101
I've been folding A2-A9 even with only limpers before me but maybe that's too tight? Like you say I could easily be outkicked and it's hard to tell so I just don't bother. I suppose if it's folded to me in late position I could try playing them
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Nah, that looks right.
Maybe A9 in LP if there's a few limpers, but that's about it.
Watch out for calling decent-sized raises with danger hands like AT-AQo. (Maybe this seems tight, but I used to get stacked regularly at 2NL for calling 6bb with AQo) Remember the gap concept - you need a stronger hand to call a raise with than you do to raise with.
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Sprayed
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Originally Posted by Pants_101
I've been folding A2-A9 even with only limpers before me but maybe that's too tight? Like you say I could easily be outkicked and it's hard to tell so I just don't bother. I suppose if it's folded to me in late position I could try playing them
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In the micros, you're bound to get called if it's folded to you on the CO or button and you raise it with a weak Ax. However, when folded to you in position, you can raise it 3xbb with a wide range. If you are called, no big deal because people miss more often than they hit. So, when they check you should still throw a 2/3 pot bet to try to take it down even if you have nothing. If they lead out and you have nothing just fold. Or if they check/call, depending upon what card comes out on the turn take a stab or check it down. If they check/raise, just fold. It's pretty easy to do because you're not married to your hand.
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