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walker179
Old 01-17-2010, 11:17 PM     Post subject: 10nl: Top pair + Openended draw facing turn raise #1 (permalink)  
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No stats.. he just sat at the table a few hands ago.. never played with him before.

Button ($13.62)
SB ($10.73)
BB ($19.15)
UTG ($19.09)
MP1 ($2.31)
Hero (MP2) ($20.72)
CO ($2.43)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with J, Q
2 folds, Hero bets $0.40, 1 fold, Button calls $0.40, 2 folds

Flop: ($0.95) J, 4, 10 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.90, Button calls $0.90

Turn: ($2.75) 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $1.50, Button raises to $3.70

Total pot: $5.75

hows my bet %s? and should I even be betting the turn?
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Old 01-17-2010, 11:24 PM #2 (permalink)  
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 Hi walker, and welcome to the forums!

You should put your opponent on a range before your flop and turn actions and decide how he will play that range against different actions. That will help you decide what the best course of action is and what your alternative options look like.

Now you might think "but I have no stats or reads on my opponent, how can I put him on a range?" The answer is that you should make the guess you can and go from there.

I look forward to your reply!
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Old 01-17-2010, 11:32 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Thanks for the welcome.. glad to be here!

Prior to my flop bet.. I suppose his range is huge.. I am definitely ahead of it.


22+, J9+, QT+, KT+, AT+.. and maybe some suited connectors like T9s, 78s .. its probably a larger range, but I dont know

on turn prior to my bet... he could have JT, 44, J9. JQ, JK, T9. AT. TK, TQ, AJ, QK. maybe AQ or AK ?.. maybe 89 or 9Q

So I guess I am behind his range on the turn?.. well its pretty close, but I think a lot of his range i beat just folds to my bet
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Old 01-19-2010, 02:15 AM #4 (permalink)  
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 So what do you think your equity is against the part of his range that calls a re-raise all-in? You can use a free piece of software called pokerstove to calculate this, available at www.pokerstove.com
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Rule # 1: don't ask questions

Rule # 2: don't ask questions

I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
 
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Old 01-19-2010, 03:34 AM #5 (permalink)  
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Equity is like 25-30% depending on the range I give him.. so I guess its a fold after his raise..

Prior to his raise.. I gave him a much larger range.. and I was 55% against his range.. so I guess betting was fine

Does this sound right?
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Old 01-19-2010, 01:10 PM #6 (permalink)  
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Read this by the way if you haven't already. And if you have, read it 10 more times a day until its in memory.

http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...em-t70711.html

You have a B hand on the turn imo. Now is betting a good play?
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Old 01-19-2010, 10:11 PM #7 (permalink)  
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So what do you think your equity is against the part of his range that calls a re-raise all-in? You can use a free piece of software called pokerstove to calculate this, available at www.pokerstove.com
You also should factor in some uncertainty when looking at PokerStove ranges. I see too many bizare hands too often to say a range is exactly some set of hands.
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Old 01-20-2010, 01:46 AM #8 (permalink)  
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So what do you think your equity is against the part of his range that calls a re-raise all-in? You can use a free piece of software called pokerstove to calculate this, available at www.pokerstove.com
You also should factor in some uncertainty when looking at PokerStove ranges. I see too many bizare hands too often to say a range is exactly some set of hands.
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I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.

Rule # 1: don't ask questions

Rule # 2: don't ask questions

I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
 
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