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Old 05-28-2009, 09:03 AM     Post subject: 10NL : Small 4-bets at 10NL Scare me #1 (permalink)  
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So villian is kinda loose and kinda agressive which imo makes him quite bad. Early days tho as its only 33 hands i guess.

2.5x 4-bet by villian at 10NL = AK crushed like 95% of time ?

Add in my positional disadvantage and is this a fist pump fold ?

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Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is CO with K A
1 fold, MP raises to $0.40, Hero raises to $1.20, BTN raises to $2.60, 3 folds, Hero ?
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Old 05-28-2009, 11:02 AM #2 (permalink)  
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oh GOOD GOD I was reading this hand and I was like "how can you have positional disadvantage if MP raised?"
then I see a cold 4b by button and shit bricks
fold as fast as you can, he has KK+
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Old 05-28-2009, 01:20 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Old 05-28-2009, 08:46 PM #4 (permalink)  
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 A 4bet is one thing but a COLD 4bet means business.

Well, even a 4bet means business, but you get what I mean.
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"Small 4-bets at 10NL Scare me"

I'm pretty convinced that the size of the 4-bet at 10NL is completely irrelevant... pending reads otherwise.

I don't remember a lot of really thinking players with dynamic 4 (or even 3 or even open raising...) bet sizes based on a multitude of criteria at 10nl. It's the act of 3betting or 4betting that defines their hand. Learned this sh!t the hard way.

A min3 or 4bet is often just the way they roll... kinda like the dudes that sortta just open shove 100bb deep when they have AA-KK 'cause, well it gets the chips in.

So cold 4-bet (min or 100bb) is KK+ at these stakes... most of the time...
 
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Old 05-28-2009, 09:36 PM #6 (permalink)  
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 Isn't 2.5x pretty standard for a 4bet anyway or am I doing it wrong
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Isn't 2.5x pretty standard for a 4bet anyway or am I doing it wrong
it's standard, but this is a 2x 4b
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Old 05-29-2009, 03:47 AM #8 (permalink)  
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 it's less than 2x actually and it's a sick good size as far as I'm concerned. Gotta blame training sites and forums for spots like these
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