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SushiWizard
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04-04-2009, 02:36 PM
Post subject: 10nl I went looking for trouble here..
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 43
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The villain in this hand has been playing noticeably more loose than everyone at the table, but so have I up to this point. Everyone pretty much kept on folding around so I was pretty comfortable opening a wide range. Hes 3 bet my button open once already prior to this hand and ive also seen him do this against another player at the table. And mind you this has all been within a pretty short amount of time. On this particular hand I decided to stick around and my plan was to get real aggressive if i flopped anything decent. I know I messed up big time here but I dont know exactly "what" I did wrong. Should I have even been in the hand to begin with?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
saw flop
UTG ($10.10)
Hero (MP) ($11.05)
Button ($10.20)
SB ($10)
BB ($7.80)
Preflop: Hero is MP with 8 , 9
UTG calls $0.10, Hero bets $0.50, 1 fold, SB raises to $1.60, 2 folds, Hero calls $1.10
Flop: ($3.40) J, 2, 4 (2 players)
SB bets $1.90, Hero raises to $4.20, SB raises to $8.40 (All-In), Hero calls $4.20
Turn: ($20.20) 5 (2 players, 1 all-in)
River: ($20.20) K (2 players, 1 all-in)
Total pot: $20.20 | Rake: $1
Also, im thinking I messed up with my bet sizing on the flop.. When he jammed I basically wanted to just die. If im going to take this line, would it have been better to jam?
Any thoughts on the hand at all would be great
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tyrn
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Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 189
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I fold PF, bad hand to open with MP. Also at low stakes, 1/2 pot bet on 2 tone flop is a good warning that he's drawing too. Decide here if your 9 is high enough to continue and call or fold.
Most importantly don't play this. Tightening up vs loose players will lead to less frustration. Sorry he had you beat from the start.
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Ragnar4
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Full House
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Billings, Montana
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Fold PF. You need to get at least AT LEAST 10x the raise.. and more is better.
the Semi-bluff raise is a pretty high-brow move. He may not have been smart enough to fold to it at these levels. The call on the flop is solid because you're getting 2-1. The only thing I'd be sorta worried about is that the raise had 0 FE, which means that you put all of your money in as a 2-1 dog. Which is bad business.
If you think he folds enough of a percent of the time here so that Pot Equity + Fold equity = 51%, go nuts have fun good luck
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The older I get, the more I start wondering; Just what in the hell is going on here? 
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bigspenda73
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Pwnsylvania
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hand looks fine except I'd iso to 4x
PF call is debatable for sure; however, as long as your IP it's not "awful" by any means. Post-flop is good ol' fashion variance, nothing wrong with that.
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oskar
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Apr 2008
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Raising PF is perfectly fine. Whether I would call the 3b or not depends largly on how SB has bee playing. If he's been playing unreasonably tight, then don't get involved.
Raise on the flop needs to be bigger - but I guess you figured that out yourself 
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first of all, 89s is perfectly fine to open
if your range for opening here is JTs+ then you're too tight
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Hes 3 bet my button open once already prior to this hand and ive also seen him do this against another player at the table.
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this is why calling pre is fine since he's doing this with lots of different hands and we're in position and his 3b size is small (it should be like 1.8)
flop is fine, except I just shove
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Stacks
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Jan 2008
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Originally Posted by bigspenda73
hand looks fine except I'd iso to 4x
PF call is debatable for sure; however, as long as your IP it's not "awful" by any means. Post-flop is good ol' fashion variance, nothing wrong with that.
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Spenda posts what I would post if I took the time to post.
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TAGurit
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Join Date: Jan 2009
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i think the call pf is shaky ground at best. the problem with calling with 89s like you did is exactly what happened on the flop. I'm never laying it down in this spot and i'd lose just the same.
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notoriousnf
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Join Date: Aug 2008
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The call of the 3b pf is where I think the hand went wrong. At these stakes, just give up, normally you're against JJ+, especially when you raised pf that big too. Otherwise as played I don't like psuhing my stack in on a draw, normally you look like a gambling fiend when you do that..
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a hot damn mess
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Originally Posted by notoriousnf
The call of the 3b pf is where I think the hand went wrong. At these stakes, just give up, normally you're against JJ+, especially when you raised pf that big too. Otherwise as played I don't like psuhing my stack in on a draw, normally you look like a gambling fiend when you do that..
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This is so bad on so many levels.
This hand is fine.
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