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stardustakos
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07-18-2009, 01:54 PM
Post subject: 10NL Holdem need advice :)
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Please tell me if I played this hand correctly.
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Party-Poker Converter Tool from flopturnriver
Button ($18.13)
MP ($10)
SB ($10)
CO ($11.45)
UTG ($10.15)
Hero (BB) ($20.98)
Preflop: Hero is BB with 3c, 3s
3 folds, Button bets $0.40, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.30
Flop: ($0.85) 9h, 3d, 4s (2 players)
Hero bets $0.81, Button raises $2.43, Hero calls $1.62
Turn: ($5.71) 5c (2 players)
Hero bets $2.71, Button calls $2.71
River: ($11.13) 2d (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $5.86, Hero folds
Total pot: $11.13
Opponent stats are VP$IP 21/ RP 11.
I think he had if not the obvious straight, for sure an overset. What do you think, was my fold correct?
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Jason
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I would have folded. 1st Postulate of Poker: "Someone ALWAYS has an ace". 
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Rivers obviously fine. I probably just get it in on the flop, it's why we called.
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JKDS
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Originally Posted by Nobody~~
Rivers obviously fine. I probably just get it in on the flop, it's why we called.
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stack sizes yo
...but flop is a nice place to raise. Since we're both deep we wont be able to stack him by using 3 pot sized bets so we need to put in a raise somewhere. Flop is a good place to do so since his reraising range is something like overpairs, A9 and sets now.
Turn bet is too small.
call river. the only ace he can really have in his range is A9 and AA, and over sets are really 99 and 44. but he'll probably lead TT-KK because your line of betting seems weak. if this is true, then we're even money against his betting range. if he only fires KK, QQ here then we're still good often enough to call since he bet around 1/2 the pot.
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Originally Posted by OngBonga
But no, jkds is lolvillager and anyone who wants to string him up is sighbad.
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Welcome to FTR!
Your flop and turn plays are a little weird. You flopped the hand you were hoping for and should be looking to stack off. I would have 3bet his flop raise (re-raise his raise) trying to build a pot so we can get it all in on later streets. But you only called, which isn't really bad as a re-raise might scare off a weaker hand. But if I took that line, I would check-raise the turn. By leading the turn with that weak bet (less than half pot) you helped keep the pot small when you should be trying to bloat it when you have the likely best hand. By the river even ace rag beats you. Overset is highly unlikely.
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Nobody~~
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Originally Posted by JKDS
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Originally Posted by Nobody~~
Rivers obviously fine. I probably just get it in on the flop, it's why we called.
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stack sizes yo
...but flop is a nice place to raise. Since we're both deep we wont be able to stack him by using 3 pot sized bets so we need to put in a raise somewhere. Flop is a good place to do so since his reraising range is something like overpairs, A9 and sets now.
Turn bet is too small.
call river. the only ace he can really have in his range is A9 and AA, and over sets are really 99 and 44. but he'll probably lead TT-KK because your line of betting seems weak. if this is true, then we're even money against his betting range. if he only fires KK, QQ here then we're still good often enough to call since he bet around 1/2 the pot. |
So you say 3b fold flop? I say get it in on the flop to say, raise, if he raises we have to get it in, we really can't fold, it's kinda scary 200 deep, but I still can't find a fold. And for the record, I agree, call river, but I think folding isn't really that bad.
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stardustakos
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Thanks for the replies people. Ok it is obvious I was scared by the raise on the flop and I didn't 3-bet it. I agree I should have bet more the flop, especially because it was the low set (I think). The fold on the river is still debatble, I think I was right, but I also thin the possibility of two pair is still big.
Obviously I need to work on my bets...
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JKDS
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Originally Posted by Nobody~~
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Originally Posted by JKDS
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Originally Posted by Nobody~~
Rivers obviously fine. I probably just get it in on the flop, it's why we called.
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stack sizes yo
...but flop is a nice place to raise. Since we're both deep we wont be able to stack him by using 3 pot sized bets so we need to put in a raise somewhere. Flop is a good place to do so since his reraising range is something like overpairs, A9 and sets now.
Turn bet is too small.
call river. the only ace he can really have in his range is A9 and AA, and over sets are really 99 and 44. but he'll probably lead TT-KK because your line of betting seems weak. if this is true, then we're even money against his betting range. if he only fires KK, QQ here then we're still good often enough to call since he bet around 1/2 the pot. |
So you say 3b fold flop? I say get it in on the flop to say, raise, if he raises we have to get it in, we really can't fold, it's kinda scary 200 deep, but I still can't find a fold. And for the record, I agree, call river, but I think folding isn't really that bad. |
i cant figure out where i said to 3b fold...
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Originally Posted by OngBonga
But no, jkds is lolvillager and anyone who wants to string him up is sighbad.
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Nobody~~
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Join Date: Jun 2009
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Originally Posted by JKDS
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Originally Posted by Nobody~~
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Originally Posted by JKDS
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Originally Posted by Nobody~~
Rivers obviously fine. I probably just get it in on the flop, it's why we called.
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stack sizes yo
...but flop is a nice place to raise. Since we're both deep we wont be able to stack him by using 3 pot sized bets so we need to put in a raise somewhere. Flop is a good place to do so since his reraising range is something like overpairs, A9 and sets now.
Turn bet is too small.
call river. the only ace he can really have in his range is A9 and AA, and over sets are really 99 and 44. but he'll probably lead TT-KK because your line of betting seems weak. if this is true, then we're even money against his betting range. if he only fires KK, QQ here then we're still good often enough to call since he bet around 1/2 the pot. |
So you say 3b fold flop? I say get it in on the flop to say, raise, if he raises we have to get it in, we really can't fold, it's kinda scary 200 deep, but I still can't find a fold. And for the record, I agree, call river, but I think folding isn't really that bad. |
i cant figure out where i said to 3b fold... |
I KNOW! But you said "stack sizes yo" So what did you mean by that if you didn't mean for me to look at stack sizes and change my mind about raising the flop?
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Nobody~~
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Ok Ok, I get it you were thinking when I said "get it in" I meant shovel. No, my bad.
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JKDS
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was in regard to "get it in" which is usually used when someone wants to shove. sorry i misunderstood
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Originally Posted by OngBonga
But no, jkds is lolvillager and anyone who wants to string him up is sighbad.
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Nobody~~
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lol, (just making this post to make sure you read my last post.)
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