www.flopturnriver.com

Poker Forum

Over 1,246,000 Posts!

Already Registered? Username: Password: Remember Forgot Password
Tweet

10nl flop bottom set on wet flop, passive guy bets from MP

LinkBack

Thread Tools

Display Modes

mbiz

04-15-2010, 09:07 AM Post subject: 10nl flop bottom set on wet flop, passive guy bets from MP

#1 (permalink)

Straight

Join Date: Jun 2009

Location: Orstraya

Posts: 178

mbiz is an unknown quantity at this point

Just sat down, villain 19/0 over 22.

Villain could be betting flop with nut FD, SD, better sets, and 2pair, but in a 3way pot with passive stats (i know tiny sample size) this bet has me thinking either sets or 2pairs (ie. a made hand). Only 2pair i see him having is 78s . Am i being way nitty? is this an insta raise?
Do i call and reassess?

$0.05/$0.10 No Limit Holdem
8 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Gangurru ($19.95)
UTG+1 vicenzo01 ($10.40)
MP1 RiverRat2184 ($11.50)
MP2 Hero ($12.75)
CO ramstein007 ($7.75)
BTN 7 tuga7 ($9.65)
SB orisolo ($10.45)
BB GooD lucI< ($9.20)

Pre-Flop: ($0.15, 8 players) Hero is MP2

Gangurru raises to $0.30, vicenzo01 calls $0.30, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.30, 4 folds

Flop:

($1.05, 3 players)
Gangurru checks, vicenzo01 bets $0.70, Hero does what?

Play for FREE and practice your game at...

Join the FTR Poker Forum to disable these banners and start posting!

Belt

04-15-2010, 09:57 AM

#2 (permalink)

3-of-a-Kind

Join Date: Feb 2007

Location: Istanbul

Posts: 95

Well, since he never raises pre, i beleive we can put over pairs in his range. I would raise and call a shove here.

Donachello

04-15-2010, 01:32 PM

#3 (permalink)

Full House

Join Date: Dec 2009

Location: TROLOLOLOLOL

Posts: 849

Donachello will become famous soon enough

*Edit*

Guy could easily have 77-QQ imo since he has yet to raise. 2pair is obviously possible and tons of FDs or FD/SD combos. That said, I think probably most of his leading range calls a raise here so just figure out how many combos or draws and overs he has and if that is larger than the # of sets/straights he has then raise it up to something around 2-2.15 (I am not sure about sizing)

[00:29] <daven> dc, why not check turn behind
[00:30] <DC> daven
[00:30] <DC> on my hand?
[00:30] <daven> yep
[00:30] <DC> because I am drunk
[00:30] <daven> nice reason
[00:30] <daven> no further questions
[00:30] <yaawn> ^^Lol

Problem officer...?

Hoopy

04-15-2010, 02:37 PM

#4 (permalink)

Full House

Join Date: Jan 2009

Location: Riverballs

Posts: 777

Hoopy is an unknown quantity at this point

We need to raise the flop since many turn cards (any spade, 9, 6, 4, A) stops us getting value from the over pairs in his range as he might be able to find a fold. Also need to consider the possibility that UTG might be trying to c/r.

I'd raise to something like $2.25 and call a shove/look to get it in on good turn cards.

EasyPoker

04-15-2010, 05:38 PM

#5 (permalink)

Full House

Join Date: Nov 2009

Posts: 753

I like a raise flop, shove turn here.

[20:19] <Zill4> god
[20:19] <Zill4> u guys
[20:19] <Zill4> so fking hopeless
[20:19] <Zill4> and dumb

spoonitnow

04-15-2010, 07:23 PM

#6 (permalink)

Straight Flush

Join Date: Sep 2005

Location: IRC Chat Room

Posts: 5,406

[x] Way too nitty
[x] Insta raise

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ripptyde

I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.

Rule # 1: don't ask questions

Rule # 2: don't ask questions

I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.

Santo2True

04-15-2010, 07:39 PM

#7 (permalink)

Straight

Join Date: Mar 2010

Location: On The EAST side

Posts: 186

imo this is the flop you wanted... no over cards, hit your set, SD's/FD's will probably call you
looks like a good spot for some raising.. if villain is that much of a nit and he's QQ+ he's thinking sweat flop as well...
if by some chance he did hit a set as well, so be it... but i don't think that's what you're going to run into

"Those who say it can't be done, shouldn't interrupt those who are doing it"

mbiz

04-15-2010, 09:22 PM

#8 (permalink)

Straight

Join Date: Jun 2009

Location: Orstraya

Posts: 178

ok cool, thanks all

surviva316

04-15-2010, 10:28 PM

#9 (permalink)

4-of-a-Kind

Join Date: Feb 2009

Location: Confusing people with my liberal biblicisms

Posts: 1,625

surviva316 will become famous soon enough

kindly tell me what the fuck info 19/0 over 22 hands gives you.

there are a million hands he could have (FD's, SD's, overcards, two pair, A8, etc). not only are the benefits of raising obvious, but folding is terrible and calling is terrible. so process of elimination or use common sense--you're get to the same answer either way

Quote:

Originally Posted by BooG690

I just wanted to share singing vaginas.

Latest Poker News
KoRnholio	05-26-2012, 03:08 PM Australia Legalized Online Poker coming up in next 6 to 12 Months
According to an email sent out by Mark Bryan, a gaming analyst at Merrill Lynch, the Australian government plans to legalize online poker sometime in the next six to 12 months. This move will coincide ... more at Poker Blogs »

« Previous Thread | Next Thread »

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts BB code is On Smilies are On [IMG] code is On HTML code is Off Trackbacks are On Pingbacks are On Refbacks are On Forum Rules

All times are GMT. The time now is 06:59 PM.

Play Texas Holdem Online, Online Texas Holdem Strategy, & Poker Forum

This is not a gambling website.

Poker Forum

Over 1,246,000 Posts!

Poker Forum

Beginners Circle

10nl flop bottom set on wet flop, passive guy bets from MP

Play for FREE and practice your game at...