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Gobbatino
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06-18-2009, 07:40 PM
Post subject: 10NL: Another AKs OOP
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Flush
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 341
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This guy has a ATT% of 35% over 130 hands, runs 21/15. I had 3bet him a couple times before, but never really with anything where I thought I was behind. Should I just shove in this situation to avoid the dreaded OOP fail?
Absolute/UB Cereus No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Absolute/UB Cereus Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
Button ($9.62)
SB ($1.65)
Hero (BB) ($11.38)
UTG ($7.63)
MP ($12.42)
CO ($10.52)
Preflop: Hero is BB with K , A
3 folds, Button bets $0.35, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.40, Button raises to $4.25, Hero ???
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Carroters
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Mar 2008
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Given his stats and history of you 3 betting him a bit, I'm more than happy to get it in, definitely don't flat his 4 bet oop with AKs because you're equity gets completely killed on like 2/3rds of boards and you'll be giving up way too often oop.
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Gobbatino
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Flush
Join Date: Apr 2009
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Fair enough, thanks Carroters. I ended up shoving and losing to a PP but I suppose that's being results oriented. As long as the shove isn't a blatant mistake...
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Fnord
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Moderator
Join Date: Dec 2003
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Get it in, but I'm not happy about it.
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Stacks
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4-of-a-Kind
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Calling here would be utter fail. Shove.
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kmind
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Not Giving In
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Fold or shove with shoving being +EV = you have to shove
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DaD01ng
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Join Date: Apr 2009
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I never fold in this situation for 100bb, shove it baby.
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surviva316
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4-of-a-Kind
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i personally hate this situation too, but let's do process of elimination. 3betting for value/folding to a 4bet is a bad play unless you're doing like range manipulation or some crap that's way too fancy for these limits. flatting here is just about the worst thing you could do. really the only way to continue if you do that is to flat, then push any flop and without running the EV math, i'm assuming that's not the best way to get value. hence if you're going to make the 3bet, then i think you've committed yourself to pushing over the 4bet. the history makes me feel a lot better about this
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