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10nl: AKo facing aggression on 2QAJ board (3 spades)
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flyingtriangle
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08-25-2009, 06:23 PM
Post subject: 10nl: AKo facing aggression on 2QAJ board (3 spades)
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Join Date: Mar 2009
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I ran into what I felt like was a pretty tricky spot with AK earlier. Villain with 47/13 over 15 hands. No reads yet. Here's how the hand played out:
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (8 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
Button ($2)
SB ($7.98)
Villain (BB) ($9.40)
UTG ($12.60)
UTG+1 ($2.52)
MP1 ($9.13)
Hero (MP2) ($9.70)
CO ($2.10)
Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A , K
3 folds, Hero bets $0.40, 3 folds, Villain calls $0.30
Flop: ($0.85) 2 , Q, A (2 players)
Villain bets $0.50, Hero calls $0.50
Turn: ($1.85) J (2 players)
Villain bets $1.10, Hero raises to $3.80, Villain raises to $8.50 (All-In), Hero ???
Now, I know a lot of people are probably going to say I should have raised the flop, and I feel like, yeah, I probably should have. But, my thinking at the time was that my AK was probably the best hand, and that it was pretty unlikely that he's taking this line with a spade draw. I felt like he probably just had an ace with a lower kicker, but I was a bit worried he had made aces up.
I figured that he was going to be betting out on any turn card, so while I wasn't thrilled with the J of spades, I estimated that I still had most of his range beat, so I put in a raise, thinking the scare card on the turn would have him folding. When he shoved instead, I had a really hard time figuring out what hands he could have...
I'd be interested to hear any thoughts on how I should have played this. Was it a terrible play to flat call on the flop with TPTK and so many draws out there? As played, was the raise on the turn a good play, or should I have flat called there as well? Can I lay this hand down when he shoves?
Thanks.
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funkeefeesh
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Two Pair
Join Date: Jul 2009
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raise that flop. as played: fold to 4bet.
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BluffCheck
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Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 48
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i actually like the flop call. and i call on the turn, i think raising the turn might be spewy if you don't plan on calling a shove.
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settecba
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Flush
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: stealing blinds from UTG
Posts: 326
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Do you realize youre probably ahead of villains donking flop range, and not so much after he bets turn? Nevertheless, you chose turn to make your "value-raise".
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I figured that he was going to be betting out on any turn card, so while I wasn't thrilled with the J of spades, I estimated that I still had most of his range beat, so I put in a raise, thinking the scare card on the turn would have him folding.
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Reread the bold and look for the mistake with that logic.
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flyingtriangle
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Join Date: Mar 2009
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Originally Posted by settecba
Do you realize youre probably ahead of villains donking flop range, and not so much after he bets turn? Nevertheless, you chose turn to make your "value-raise".
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I figured that he was going to be betting out on any turn card, so while I wasn't thrilled with the J of spades, I estimated that I still had most of his range beat, so I put in a raise, thinking the scare card on the turn would have him folding.
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Reread the bold and look for the mistake with that logic. |
I think I see your point. What I was thinking was that after the turn card I was still ahead, but that the other guy could very well have picked up a straight draw or a flush draw, and I didn't want him to get the right price to draw to it, hence the raise on the turn. Whether this was a sound strategy or not, I hope it was at least logically consistent.
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settecba
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Flush
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: stealing blinds from UTG
Posts: 326
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When you price out draws you want villains to CALL, not FOLD.
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