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FriskyPirate
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12-22-2008, 03:45 PM
Post subject: 10NL AA | is this a weak spew or a decent shove
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Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Palm Springs
Posts: 92
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Villain f@unt4eva is a 72 | 36 and villain PeskieIsSexy is 32 | 11. I thought about pushing all-in pre-flop but felt there should be one other caller before such an early push. On the flop I thought that only 4 hands have me...22 33 44 and A5 and I decided most players would not set-mine for $2, therefore they more likely have a big pair like QQ KK maybe JJ or AKs. I personally decided to shove on the turn. Is this a reasonable play vs such a loose player? Is there a more optimal way to play it?
thanks
$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
8 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG AceMinion ($12.55)
UTG+1 MiraCIe ($9.85)
MP1 PeskieIsSexy ($12.00)
MP2 f@unt4eva ($12.25)
CO StL Pokers ($10.00)
BTN omega2I ($15.95)
SB Hero ($10.10)
BB OnkelKC ($10.00)
Pre-flop: ($0.15, 8 players) Hero is SB  
2 folds, PeskieIsSexy raises to $0.30, f@unt4eva calls $0.30, 2 folds, Hero raises to $2, 1 fold, PeskieIsSexy folds, f@unt4eva calls $1.70
Flop:    ($4.40, 2 players)
Hero bets $3, f@unt4eva calls $3
Turn:  ($10.40, 2 players)
Hero ($5.10)?
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kb coolman
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Join Date: Oct 2008
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Why even post this? It's a complete no-brainer.
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TightPie
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Join Date: Dec 2008
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If this were at a Brick and Morter casino, i would bet $4.85 leaving him a quarter to go use the pay phone and call his mom to come and pick him up and drive him back home to his single wide.
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FriskyPirate
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Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Palm Springs
Posts: 92
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He turned over A5 is why I posted. So I was wondering if I should of been more careful...not because of the A5 so much but because loose players might of had 22 33 44? I feel better hearing it's more cut and dry then I thought.
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HarleyGuy13
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Full House
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Oregon
Posts: 1,226
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Falls into the shit happens and more often when playing with shitty players. Do it a hundred times and you're a $90 ahead!
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The object is to fill the pot of experience before you empty the pot of luck."
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JR9477
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Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Iowa
Posts: 426
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I agree with your assumptions.
With a preflop raise of $2, you're not making set mining worth it for them. The general guide for set mining is you need to win 15-20x what you paid to make money in the long run, and at least 10x to break even. So you're right about that.
I would also only really expect to see JJ+ here, which they might be a little passive with.
Also, was A5 SOOTED?
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xptboy
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Join Date: May 2008
Location: Brussels
Posts: 187
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definitely not spew
however I think your preflop 3bet was much too big, I'd raise to 1.1 or 1.2.
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JR9477
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Flush
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Iowa
Posts: 426
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by xptboy
definitely not spew
however I think your preflop 3bet was much too big, I'd raise to 1.1 or 1.2.
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FriskyPirate doesn't seem the type to do something without good reason, he probably raised so much because he thought it would easily get called or else he wouldn't have even mentioned shoving over.
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JKDS
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Full House
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Chandler, AZ
Posts: 1,024
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preflop 3b waaay to large, and pushing all in pre would be a great way to make less money. Also, you're range for both players is too tight. They are definitely doing this with more than just JJ+ and AK. Also, KK and QQ are probably unlikely, as many players would 4b push these hands
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Originally Posted by OngBonga
But no, jkds is lolvillager and anyone who wants to string him up is sighbad.
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kb coolman
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 596
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by FriskyPirate
He turned over A5 is why I posted.
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So the blind squirrel found a nut...big deal. Don't be results oriented. If he wants to call your PFR with A5, I'll stack off with him EVERY TIME with AA.
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Monsieur_chat
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Flush
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: London
Posts: 254
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Unlucky, sounds like you ran into a donk on a lucky day. At least you don't seem to be raging which is my normal reaction when muppets get lucky.
Nh, onto the next.
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bigspenda73
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Pwnsylvania
Posts: 7,545
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PF size is baaaaaaaaad, $1.50 at the most.
Remember, we want to get value/charge our opponents but not at the expense of blowing all of their weaker hands out of the pot.
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