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Old 06-05-2009, 06:51 AM     Post subject: 10NL : 3bet pot with TT #1 (permalink)  
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Preflop i think think 3-bet is standard here. Getting called by lots worse and also have some nice position advantge .

His flop lead is weak, but i decided to flat to keep in his PPs random 4's and whatever oother garbage he does this with. I think its unlikey he donks a 9 here. 10NL donks are way too tricksy for that in general.

K drops and now he ramps up the bet sizing. He could be just suddenly betting almost properly as he saw my flop call as weak and now decides that he can bluff me easily. Although perhaps my flop flat must scare him as it looks like i got a 9 here a lot, and thinking like that would means that he must have a 9 here and hoping i caught the King or have a worse 9. I am probably over thinking. 51/15 doesnt think much i suspect.

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Hero (BTN): $10.30
SB: $11.85
BB: $3.50
UTG: $11.20
MP: $9.85
CO: $21.35

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BTN with T T
2 folds, CO raises to $0.30, Hero raises to $0.90, 2 folds, CO calls $0.60

Flop: ($1.95) 9 9 4 (2 players)
CO bets $0.80, Hero calls $0.80

Turn: ($3.55) K (2 players)
CO bets $2, Hero?
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Old 06-05-2009, 11:50 PM #2 (permalink)  
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So what was your plan for the hand when you called the flop?
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Old 06-06-2009, 12:17 AM     Post subject: Re: 10NL : 3bet pot with TT #3 (permalink)  
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His flop lead is weak, but i decided to flat to keep in his PPs random 4's and whatever oother garbage he does this with.
You flat to keep lower PP's in and are afraid when a K hits? If this was your line, then turn should be instafistpumpshove. I think your beat but I would have raised the flop.
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Old 06-06-2009, 12:41 AM #4 (permalink)  
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You flat to keep lower PP's in and are afraid when a K hits? If this was your line, then turn should be instafistpumpshove.
What? You think he's calling your shove with smaller pairs? I don't think raising here ever gets called by worse or folds out better. I like this hand as played and I probably call another street as i think this bet seems quite likely to be a small pocket pair that hates the idea of c/c or c/fing. Would then fold to any decent sized river bet.
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Old 06-06-2009, 05:57 AM #5 (permalink)  
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imo calling the turn is bad once the king comes unless you have a read on his bluffing frequency being very high in this spot, reason being is he's probably donking tons of Kx combos. run some ranges through stove and watch your equity crash on the turn.
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Old 06-06-2009, 06:40 AM #6 (permalink)  
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imo calling the turn is bad once the king comes unless you have a read on his bluffing frequency being very high in this spot, reason being is he's probably donking tons of Kx combos. run some ranges through stove and watch your equity crash on the turn.
but does he think you'd be afraid of that king? in that case he'd bet his air
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Old 06-06-2009, 07:00 AM #7 (permalink)  
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I like this hand as played and I probably call another street as i think this bet seems quite likely to be a small pocket pair that hates the idea of c/c or c/fing. Would then fold to any decent sized river bet.
Instead of flat calling on flop and on turn, 3bet on the flop would have been more effective.

Maybe you should even 3bet preflop because when you call, you dont want to see overcards on board. However, even if there is no overcards as in our case it is very hard to play these cards.
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Old 06-06-2009, 07:17 AM #8 (permalink)  
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Flop I could go either way on. I like flatting AA/KK > flatting TT

Turn is a trivial call as this guy is pretty terrible, aggressive and erratic.
 
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