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nish81

08-25-2009, 10:42 PM Post subject: 10k hands: stats check

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ignore the blinds post OOP, i left 'automatically post blinds' on and my net d/c'ed me, then posted them when i reconnected and the blinds had passed (this happened like a couple of times)

<JustinSKS> Tha'ts why I fold my 33 to 72o, because 7 high beats, 1 pair, donk.

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08-25-2009, 11:19 PM

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These may be obvious to you but here we go...

Try raising a tad more as opposed to calling, play more hands from the CO/BU if you're comfortable post-flop. And this leads to... you should be stealing more, at least 2x as much since these players are awful and you should be taking every advantage you can to play a HU pot IP against a fish who defends his blinds too much.

Your AF is fine, what is it on each street? How often do you cbet at 2nl?

Your graph is good, looks like you're improving well as you go. Nice win rate and keep at it Nish!

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08-26-2009, 04:45 PM

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A good start, but I agree with Nutty,
Your VPIP/PFR has too much spread.
In late position you can raise a limper or two with your AX type hands when tables are loose passive, dont be too eager to limp them behind. You will steal a lot of blinds and fold guys out on flops with raises in this position at 2nl.

Otherwise nice job....you should show your cbet % and cbet success.

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08-26-2009, 04:56 PM

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it's nice and all, but you don't have to nit it up to win at 2NL
other than that, what everyone else said

nish81

08-27-2009, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Nutty McMutt

Your AF is fine, what is it on each street? How often do you cbet at 2nl?

Your graph is good, looks like you're improving well as you go. Nice win rate and keep at it Nish!

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Otherwise nice job....you should show your cbet % and cbet success.

Thanks

Here's more stats including the ones you mentioned:

I've never ever seen these stats before, so I have no idea whether they're alright or horribly wrong, my normal HUD doesnt show them. well it shows the c-bet and fold to c-bet, thats it I think.

As for the other stuff you guys mentioned, you're right, I'm going to work on stealing more from the BTN and CO and c-betting to take down more pots. Also Vinland's right in his assessment of me - I always limp Axs and sc's behind or fold them if there's only 1 limpers, I never raise after 1 or 2 limpers, maybe I'll start doing that. Thanks

<JustinSKS> Tha'ts why I fold my 33 to 72o, because 7 high beats, 1 pair, donk.

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08-27-2009, 07:34 PM

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oober nitty, but total congrats on the winrate so far.

you could def stand to steal more blinds and to play more hands from LP in general. WTSD is kinda low, but i guess folding to aggression at 2NL is prolly the nuts.

so you're prolly missin' out on a lot of value, but we can't tell you where or how just by looking at the numbers. but definitely keep up the good work. goes to show that patience pays off more at 2NL than brilliant plays

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08-27-2009, 07:45 PM

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Nice stats, my friend. Raise more...but everyone's said that already. You're well on your way!

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08-27-2009, 10:36 PM

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At a quick glance I like what I see. Just work on getting that ATS up as you move up in limits. It's a gradual process but eventually yours will double.

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08-28-2009, 07:32 AM

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raise it up yo!!1

nish81

08-28-2009, 08:00 AM

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I played a 400-500 hand session yesterday and my ATS was something like 25-30% during it - feels good stealing

<JustinSKS> Tha'ts why I fold my 33 to 72o, because 7 high beats, 1 pair, donk.

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08-28-2009, 10:37 AM

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I played a 400-500 hand session yesterday and my ATS was something like 25-30% during it - feels good stealing

Much better, now see if you can do that every time.

As everyone said, raise more. In fact every time you open the action, do it with a raise. Every time. If your hand is worth playing, its worth raising.

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08-28-2009, 10:49 AM

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So you learned how to cbet... think about betting the turn now

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08-28-2009, 11:19 AM

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position stats
you are about right in utg/utg+1
Mp1 looks fine, but by mp2 you should be loosening up a little more than you are.
HJ you are too tight, and cutoff you are way too tight.
Button you are calling too much when you could be raising over limpers, and you aren't stealing or 3-betting enough. Blinds look fine.

overall
You are beating the limit for 11ptBB/100. This is solid. Means that you are better than 2nl, and good enough to beat 5nl when you get there.

You are 12-7, this is uber-nit. You already know this. Try loosening up a little in late position, stealing a little more - especially from cutoff, and raising in some of the spots where you might otherwise limp behind. Also post your 3-bet and steal stats by position please.

General stats.
Your W$WSF is low for how nitty you are - given that you are ahead way more than 35% of the time on the flop when your range is like QQ+ or something.
Your attempt to steal is too low. Steal a wider range, try any ace, any suited king, any pair, any broadway combo, any suited connector for a while - see how that feels. This is too wide normally, but at 2nl it's fine. You are not going to get 3-bet light.

Fold to 3-bet is exploitably high, but that's a good thing at 2nl, very few players are 3-betting light. Just 4-bet shove QQ+/AK.
Your fold to steal is interesting. How are you defending? calling or 3-betting? what type of hands? what is your plan on various flop textures when you call from the blinds. Remember you'll be out of position against a wide range. I'm doing this same work at the moment....

Rest looks fine I think. Win another 15bi, get your arse to 5nl, profit.

don't bother posting graphs.Your red line is amazing though.

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08-28-2009, 11:44 AM

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Cool. There are certain broadway hands i'm not playing from HJ-BTN, stuff like KJo, AT, QJ. I'm getting the feeling I should be opening those hands from HJ+, and even raising behind one or two limpers in CO/BTN. Also looks like I should raise suited aces behind 1/2 limpers in the BTN or the CO, and maybe even mid-high suited connectors.

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overall
You are beating the limit for 11ptBB/100. This is solid. Means that you are better than 2nl, and good enough to beat 5nl when you get there.

You are 12-7, this is uber-nit. You already know this. Try loosening up a little in late position, stealing a little more - especially from cutoff, and raising in some of the spots where you might otherwise limp behind. Also post your 3-bet and steal stats by position please.

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General stats.
Your W$WSF is low for how nitty you are - given that you are ahead way more than 35% of the time on the flop when your range is like QQ+ or something.
Your attempt to steal is too low. Steal a wider range, try any ace, any suited king, any pair, any broadway combo, any suited connector for a while - see how that feels. This is too wide normally, but at 2nl it's fine. You are not going to get 3-bet light.

Fold to 3-bet is exploitably high, but that's a good thing at 2nl, very few players are 3-betting light. Just 4-bet shove QQ+/AK.
Your fold to steal is interesting. How are you defending? calling or 3-betting? what type of hands? what is your plan on various flop textures when you call from the blinds. Remember you'll be out of position against a wide range. I'm doing this same work at the moment....

i actually dont 4bet shove AK, or even QQ a lot of the time, because at 2nl a shove (especially a 4bet shove) is often KK+

as for defending against steals, I don't think i'm doing it right. i very rarely, if ever, 3bet a blind stealer without JJ+/AQ+, in fact I dont think I have ever done that. i can rarely have a solid read on whether someone's stealing just to steal the blinds, because it's not too common at 2nl. most of the time ill just call with broadways/suited aces/connectors, but you're right, i've got to think about this more

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Rest looks fine I think. Win another 15bi, get your arse to 5nl, profit.

don't bother posting graphs.Your red line is amazing though.

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<JustinSKS> Tha'ts why I fold my 33 to 72o, because 7 high beats, 1 pair, donk.

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