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jameseyb

04-18-2007, 11:56 AM Post subject: 10k Hand Checkup - Critique and feedback welcomed

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Well, I just about broke 10k hands last night (ok, 300 short, but I had a bit of time free at work this lunchtime, so I thought I would post the various reports up and get some feedback from you guys about my performance so far.

I'm not that happy with my recent play and I'm at a loss to explain why things went off the rails so much, but I have a strong suspicion that it's me thinking I am better than I am and therefore making mistakes. Mistakes that mean I lose money. Anyway, No more talk from me, it's your turn. Comments and critique welcome, I need all the help I can get!

Note: All the BB amounts are PTBB, not "proper" BB

The PT report

The Poker Patterns graph

Position stats from PT

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Jimmy Mac

04-18-2007, 12:16 PM

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Can't see anything too bad there. Your attempted to steal blinds is really low at 11%, I'd think about open raising more often if it's folded to you in late position. I wouldn't worry too much about your win rate - variance is a killer and 10k hands is nothing. Just make sure you're picking good seats, and playing your A game.

Post your position stats.

jameseyb

04-18-2007, 02:00 PM

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Post now updated with position stats

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Chopper

04-18-2007, 03:14 PM

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yeah, i dont see much that is jumping off the page at me either. your vpip is a tad low, for my taste (especially at 10 NL), your pfr is fine (at 10, they call any raise), your W$wSF is good, W$SD is a bit low (but that doesnt tell me much), your AF is fine. i'm looking at stuff i usually dont look at, but nothing alarms me.

i would attempt to steal more, not just from CO/BU, but from different places. if you spot tighties in the blinds...TAKE THEM, no matter your seat. just do it with something decent...it tends to "buy a little action" from the other donkeys when you hold the good stuff.

sorry, no magic advice here. however, that was a nice run from ~2500 hands up to ~5k. well done, whatever you were doing. i imagine the deck was slapping you silly there, too.

LHE is a game where your skill keeps you breakeven until you hit your rush of random BS.

Nothing beats flopping quads while dropping a duece!

biondino

04-18-2007, 04:33 PM

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You play and raise 2% more hands on the button, but your stats are identical the rest of MP and LP. The CO is a good place for stealing and bullying the table - take advantage of it. On a tight table, even the HJ can be an aggressive position.

You're playing 17% UTG+2 and 15% UTG, of which you're raising less than 6%. What are the 9% of hands you're limping UTG? Suited connectors and the like don't play well from there, and nor do AT/KQ type hands; the only hands you really can limp without giving up value are small-mid PPs, which should be about 3% (I am guessing).

At 6max, I play 11% of hands UTG (the equivalent of MP at FR) - the rest just aren't worth it with what you're losing in terms of position.

So - bet fewer hands early, and bet them harder; bet more hands late, and bet them harder. You want isolation and control, and I can't imagine you're getting it, which is probably leading to hands like AQ costing you loads of cash when you inevitably get drawn out on by one of the 3 or 4 others seeing the flop.

04-18-2007, 07:41 PM

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You are limping too much in EP with mediocre hands, and you aren't stealing enough blinds.
Instead of just limping in behind 1 or 2 limpers from the CO/BTN, raise it up with your mid PP's and SC's.

sejje

04-18-2007, 09:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JL

You are limping too much in EP with mediocre hands, and you aren't stealing enough blinds.
Instead of just limping in behind 1 or 2 limpers from the CO/BTN, raise it up with your mid PP's and SC's.

I disagree here, I think in most 10NL games ideal stats would be about 22/8. I actually advocate limping MORE hands, including small pairs up front and SCs behind other limpers with better position.

Maybe it's just my style, but I love turning limped pots into big pots with a moron or two when my limps turn to gold.

I think raising small pairs is generally -EV at 10NL. You can't tell when you're ahead, can't tell if you're still good when they check/call a cbet...certainly can't push them off a pot. Just limp a lot of hands, hit big, and get paid. That's my philosophy.

OP: play six-max and widen your limping range.

Chopper

04-18-2007, 10:57 PM

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i agree with sejje. while at 10 NL, dont be afraid to open-limp with marginals. open-raising them loses value down here because these fish will call anyway. stick to raising your premiums.

however, hide behind open-limpers with all kinds of wacky stuff, looking to bust a big stack on a great flop. also, i would even consider chasing unprofitable draws on the flop, or raising them, to gain a free one on the turn. what is -EV up higher, is sometimes +EV down here...again because these fish WILL call. its almost like play money down here.

i would widen out to 25ish/7ish, but bump my AF to over 3.

LHE is a game where your skill keeps you breakeven until you hit your rush of random BS.

Nothing beats flopping quads while dropping a duece!

jameseyb

04-19-2007, 09:36 AM

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All great responses, thanks guys. I definately need to widen my played hands and I think you could be onto something with the stealing percentage.

To be honest, in the big upswing on my graph, I was playing probably about 20-25% of hands and raising about 10% or a bit more with them. However, the sharp decline in my BR saw me tighten up a fair bit more and the last sessions have seen me sink to about 15/6-7 as I just never seem to catch cards at the right time.

As far as limping and the "missing" 3%, it's hands like QJs/o and SCs that I am trying to get in cheap. I know it's a leak, but5 I do not want to raise from EP with these hands as it is, in my opinion, a bad thing if someone can call behind me with higher SCs or a mid PP. Unlikely I know, but it's happened a couple of times and once bitten...

Anyway, advice so far taken on board. I'll try playing a wider range of hands and folding more early on/raising more later onand see what happens.

J

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sejje

04-19-2007, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by jameseyb

I think you could be onto something with the stealing percentage...

As far as limping and the "missing" 3%, it's hands like QJs/o and SCs that I am trying to get in cheap. I know it's a leak,

I don't think you need to steal blinds. I take a stab at 2 or 3-way pots if it's getting checked around. Trying to steal blinds usually ends up (for me anyway) getting a call and then a flop call on the cbet, and now you've blown 7 or 8xBB trying to win 1.5. I don't think it's profitable here.

As far as QJ, not raising that hand is probably a blessing at this limit, not a leak. I absolutely try to limp them unless I'm first in and have the CO or button.

Chopper

04-19-2007, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by sejje

Quote:

Originally Posted by jameseyb

I think you could be onto something with the stealing percentage...

As far as limping and the "missing" 3%, it's hands like QJs/o and SCs that I am trying to get in cheap. I know it's a leak,

when you "try" to steal blinds at the lower levels...YOU WANT TO GET CALLED!! its a bit of a twist on a higher limit game, imo. i will "steal" with suited Aces, pp's, big sc's. things that will bump my blind steal stats up to 20% or higher. when i hold those hands, they come often enough, i LOOK like i'm trying to steal blinds. donkeys at 10 and 25 have heard of stealing blinds as a technique, but dont know how to defend properly (w/3bets), they simply call. friggin' great!! call me with your AXo, and your 22, i will have your lunch postflop. 3bet me with those same hands, and i will stop stealing YOUR blinds, and move on to somebody else.

1)i am not just trying to steal a blind, that is unprofitable down here. i am trying to steal every nickel you put in to call my raise, and anything you are dumb enough to put in after....most times. of course, i need to know when i am up against a real hand...oh, you mean when they raise? too easy.
2)i am buying action for my bigger late position hands. i NEED you to "think" i am trying to steal to set up the action for when i have you crushed with a biggie.

try it, just make sure you are "stealing" with stuff you know how to play when it gets called...because it will get called.

LHE is a game where your skill keeps you breakeven until you hit your rush of random BS.

Nothing beats flopping quads while dropping a duece!

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