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Sasquach991
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03-24-2009, 04:52 PM
Post subject: 100k Hands Checkup-Position Stats Included
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I posted 100k Hands graph, stats, etc. in my OP but it's getting no comments. Hopefully they'll get more attention here.
Any comments welcome.
Currently playing 10NL
Graph for 5NL, 10NL, and 25NL combined

Stats for 5NL, 10NL, and 25NL by month

Graph for 10NL only

AI and EV/SD for 10NL
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What is your startegy in the jumps in play? I mean the game at 5/10 is yours and you aren't ready for the 10/25 game. Am I reading this correctly?
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This is 6-max right?
Your ATS needs to go up. I suggest reading over blinds stealing 101 and raising behind limpers by spoonitnow and work on incorporating these concepts into your game. This will have your PFR and V$PIP go up a few notches too. Overall you'll be harder to read and get more value.
3-bet is too low for 6-max. Although I'm not really sure what an 'optimal' 3-bet stat would be, fwiw mines higher than that for full ring and I don't feel I'm 3-betting enough.
I think you would benefit alot from posting positional stats.
How often do you 2-barrell?
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Sasquach991
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Sorry, yes this is 6-Max
ATS- I had heard that 30% is good. Can't remember where I heard it. Maybe in one of the FTR videos.
I haven't read Raising Behind Limpers. Will do that.
I too would like to know what a good 3-bet percent is.
After posting this I reviewed my stats thoroughly and changed some things. See my Operation
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Thanks Micro.
Edit: I remembered the 30% number incorrectly. The number is >30%. It was in Blind Stealing 101.
I had never seen the other article. Thanks for pointing it out. I don't read the FR forums much.
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According to one of the articles on my HEM, they found that people that are 3betting between 5.2% and 6.2% have the highest median bb/100, and the higher 3bet percentages were still quite profitable.
For 6max, I would experiment with 3betting MP or CO openers with hands like AQ, KQs, AJs. You can also usually 3bet most Axs hands against tighter players to take down the pot preflop, or to take it down on the flop with a 2/3rds size bet. This will also help you get better value out of QQ+.
FWIW, my 3bet % was 5.5% this month and 6.3% last month. Don't go crazy with it though, and use it against the right types of players.
Positional stats would be helpful too to help us give a better picture. PM me if you want to swap some hand histories.
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You could definitely up the Aggression some, and stealing is low.
Looks as though you were coolered at $25NL with your Win$SD under 50%.
With the low AF and the low Win%SD at $25NL you may be making too many calls. Try to do more raise/bet or fold.
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OMG, this is 6max? I was going to tell you to raise more hands and 3-bet more, and I thought it was FR.
Don't get out of your comfort zone too much, but definitely start putting a couple more hands in your opening range from LP. 3-bet looser players with a wider range, especially in position.
You're probably c-betting too much also.
Pay some attention to board texture. With a loose limp caller it's mostly better to check behind low connected boards because so much of their range hit something, and they're not necessarily folding pp's giving you credit for an overpair. Take your free overcard draw, and re-evaluate the turn. If you have AJ on 679, you can also bluff any Q or K on the turn after you check behind.
Always check "fold to c-bet" stats before c-betting also.
Depending on who's in the blinds you can also up your stealing a little.
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Sasquach991
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Originally Posted by CBAT
You could definitely up the Aggression some, and stealing is low.
Looks as though you were coolered at $25NL with your Win$SD under 50%.
With the low AF and the low Win%SD at $25NL you may be making too many calls. Try to do more raise/bet or fold.
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Definitely coolered alot at 25NL. I also stopped playing 25NL and dropped back down to 10NL.
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Sasquach991
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Originally Posted by oskar
OMG, this is 6max? I was going to tell you to raise more hands and 3-bet more, and I thought it was FR.
Don't get out of your comfort zone too much, but definitely start putting a couple more hands in your opening range from LP. 3-bet looser players with a wider range, especially in position.
You're probably c-betting too much also.
Pay some attention to board texture. With a loose limp caller it's mostly better to check behind low connected boards because so much of their range hit something, and they're not necessarily folding pp's giving you credit for an overpair. Take your free overcard draw, and re-evaluate the turn. If you have AJ on 679, you can also bluff any Q or K on the turn after you check behind.
Always check "fold to c-bet" stats before c-betting also.
Depending on who's in the blinds you can also up your stealing a little.
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Definitely cbetting too much and I just started check/raising more after reading some FTR articles.
I also started taking the overcard draw tonight but I was only betting when I hit an over. I'll work on that.
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if this is 6max you're a big nit
post the position stats and stop calling/limping so much and starting raising more PF.
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Sasquach991
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Originally Posted by bigspenda73
if this is 6max you're a big nit
post the position stats and stop calling/limping so much and starting raising more PF.
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I've always played 6 max. Why am I just now hearing that I'm nitty?
At 6 max I should be more like 25/22/3? or higher?
I'd be nice if I could get some feedback in my OP.
I'll post position stats tonight.
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i think your vpip/pfr stats are fine for the stakes ur playing. just continue to work on stealing the blinds and as you open up more in late position they will increase. however ur aggression is really low for 6max. it should be at least a 2. and ur 3bet is way low. start 3betting more of your hands and that should bring your vpip/pfr stats closer together.
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Sasquach991
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Position stats for 10NL by month
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I'm not the one to give out advise but I will tell you that your going to hear comments about playing as many hands from the small blind as you do the button. Reason I know this is I was/am pretty much the same way. Although since posting my stats I have been very aware of this and really watch my play from the blinds.
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there is a site were you can check other players stats its really helpful but i forgot what it is can anyone tell me any sites they know of that might help me remember
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Sasquach991
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Played about 1k hands tonight. I used the advice above. My stats were
VPIP 23
PFR 20
3bet% 5
AG 2.8
Steal 43%
Better?
Down a BI but only because of a 80/1/0.3 idiot who busted AA, KK and AK(with top 2) with a set on every one.
I raised SC 78+ in late position
3bet alot more
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