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Old 06-17-2009, 08:26 PM     Post subject: 10 NL hand #1 (permalink)  
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villain was 39/10/4.7 0%3bet% 100%cbet over 64 hands and had been talking poker books etc with SB all through the session in the chat box. I was 29/19/2.4 3.5%3bet with 41%ATS.

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
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Stacks:
UTG idir57 ($9.90)
CO Hero ($25.10)
BTN NoFame09 ($14.45)
SB Zijl ($17.50)
BB frenki72 ($7.05)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 5 players) Hero is CO
idir57 raises to $0.30, idir57 says "but doyle wrote the no limit chapter", Hero raises to $1, 3 folds, idir57 says "it's classic", idir57 calls $0.70

Flop: ($2.15, 2 players)
idir57 checks, Zijl says "im reading professional no limit holdem now", idir57 says "who wrote it?", Hero bets $1.60, idir57 raises to $4.40, Zijl says "matt flynn, sunny mehta & ed miller", idir57 says "ed miller is a reference", Hero ???,
idir57 says "come on fold ur AK"

His line didn't seem to say I was good. I just felt that I was up against QQ+ or more likely a set. Normally he'd been cbetting so the check raise was a change to his line.
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Old 06-17-2009, 09:17 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Stop chatting about poker material (books, forums, improving) at the tables.

As played, what are you trying to accomplish with your flop bet? Is he calling with worse? Folding better?
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Old 06-17-2009, 10:17 PM #3 (permalink)  
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His "fold to 3bet" stat would be relevant here.

He cannot cbet when you 3bet pre.

This is not a good board to cbet. FWIW, generally speaking, pocket pairs are a significant portion of most players preflop/3bet calling range.
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Old 06-18-2009, 12:10 AM #4 (permalink)  
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villain and SB were doing the chatting , I didnt take part except that villain was unaware of the authors of various books which tended to imply that he hadn't done much reading .
The flop bet was essentially trying to take it down there, price out any flush draws and straight draws.I took his check raise to signal a lot of strength either a big pocket pair or a set .I folded as I thought I may well be drawing to a losing hand.
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Old 06-18-2009, 01:21 AM #5 (permalink)  
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Using poker stove, his opening range is roughly {77+,A9s+,KTs+,QTs+,AJo+,KQo}. After you 3 bet and he calls I have his range looking like this {77+,ATs+,AQo+,KQs}.
Basically your behind on the flop having 37% equity, I think its a fold unless you want to turn your hand into a semi bluff by calling flop and shoving a diamond turn.
 
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