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Cougar

06-30-2009, 03:16 PM Post subject: 10 NL: 3 JJ Hands for Review

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Hey everyone, couple recent JJ hands that was wondering if I could get your input on?

1.) Villain: 35/6/0 over 17 hands, no specific reads but seemed to be a bit of a station

Need help/advice on the turn and river on this one...

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (7 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Button ($1.95)
Hero (SB) ($9.50)
BB ($10)
UTG ($8.55)
MP1 ($3.80)
MP2 ($9.85)
CO ($5)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J

, J

1 fold, MP1 calls $0.10, 1 fold, CO (poster) checks, 1 fold, Hero bets $0.60, 1 fold, MP1 calls $0.50, 1 fold

Pretty standard here, 5xbb raise over limper

Flop: ($1.40) 6

, 5

, K

(2 players)
Hero bets $0.80, MP1 calls $0.80

C-bet little over 1/2 pot (perhaps this should have been bigger), villains range is still pretty wide here

Turn: ($3) 4

(2 players)
Hero checks, MP1 checks

I am probably w/a or w/b here (beating 5x, 6x, small pp, losing to kx and sc that make a straight)
Thinking the 4 doesn't hit much of villains range (only a straight or a loose 44)
I checked to keep pot small, setting up for a bet on the river, should this be a raise?

River: ($3) 7

(2 players)
Hero bets $1.50

My thought was to B/F thinking that 3's and 8's are not likely here and K probably would have bet turn
Would c/f or c/c be better?

2.) Villain is 43/26/8 over 46 hands, pretty active PF and playing alot of cards

I had been looking for a nice hand to value-town this villain and this one seemed to be a nice opportunity

Comments on turn/river?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

SB ($2.30)
Hero (BB) ($10)
UTG ($12.35)
MP ($12)
CO ($1.75)
Button ($8.15)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J

, J

1 fold, MP bets $0.30, CO calls $0.30, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.20

Just call to keep worse hands in

Flop: ($0.95) 2

, 5

, 8

(3 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $0.40, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.40

Good flop for Hero, put villain on really wide range at this point (overpairs, overcards, suited & non-suited connectors) and think i am well ahead of most of it
Call 1/2 pot bet for value, choose not re-raise b/c only better hands

Turn: ($1.75) 3

(2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $0.90, Hero calls $0.90

Call 1/2 pot bet again for value, think I am still ahead of range here

River: ($3.55) 5

(2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $2.80, Hero ???

Good size bet on river (80% pot), was thinking this could be 5x hitting, 46, 2 pair but could also just be a spewy bet, the size really made me worry
Need 30% equity to call, is this a call or fold? (raising out me thinks)

3.) Villain is 29/5.8/1.03 over 224 hands, hasn't shown down much so don't have specific reads

Thoughts on how to react to the villain min-reraise on the flop?

Is this an obvious fold or is this SD/FD/Air often enough to re-raise/call shove?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (8 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Hero (BB) ($17.75)
UTG ($9.35)
UTG+1 ($7.60)
MP1 ($17.75)
MP2 ($2.10)
CO ($11.60)
Button ($10)
SB ($7)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J

, J

6 folds, SB calls $0.05, Hero bets $0.50, SB calls $0.40

Flop: ($1) 10

, 6

, 7

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.80, SB raises to $1.60, [color=#CC3333]Hero ???

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surviva316

06-30-2009, 03:56 PM

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hand one is NOT a wa/wb situation (split pair on a soaking wet board never is). wa/wb is like AA on a KK2r board. there are so many draws and stuff here. of course that isn't at all to say that you should be bombing turn 'cause it seems like a must check w/o reads.

gotta raise that flop to price out draws and overs. again that phrase "well ahead" on a wet board (not soaking wet though).

anyway, really hard to put villain on a hand with no notes on what he's raised in the past. i mean his PFR isn't outta control so it's really hard to put him on 46 or too many 5x hands. even ATS% would be helpful here to know if this guy's ever heard of position i'm quicker to put broadways and pairs in his range (PF that is).

after the flop knowing how often he cbets is pretty important for ranges post flop. he's had 11 cbet opps so we can have a fair idea of if he can do this with air. the river call seems kinda close to me. i think villain is bluffing here fairly often, though it's hard to tell how often since we don't know if he plays draws aggressively. other than that just about all we beat is TT, 99, maybe A8 and 98s and the likes are a slight possibility. i think it's a fold 'cause there's such a wide range of hands that beat us and like all of them play it this way except for like 33 (even like all of the 5x hands turned a pair + SD)

hand 3 i think is a call, reval. the tough part about this is that we pick up equity on so many turns with our BD draws, but aren't gonna know where you stand.

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Keith

06-30-2009, 04:03 PM Post subject: Re: 10 NL: 3 JJ Hands for Review

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Join Date: Nov 2008

Posts: 1,336

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cougar

3.) Villain is 29/5.8/1.03 over 224 hands, hasn't shown down much so don't have specific reads

Thoughts on how to react to the villain min-reraise on the flop?

Is this an obvious fold or is this SD/FD/Air often enough to re-raise/call shove?

How do you manage to play 224 hands with someone and not have a clue how they play?. you say he hasn't shown down much but he's called a raise OOP BvB .Do you have fold blind stats on your HUD. What are his attempt to steal stats like. Completes SB and call a raise I would guess is either suited conector or more likely low pocket pair.
I think he's either hit his set or made his straight with a flush out as well. with a check raise you are probably behind so I would say fold.
I'm going through my database atthe moment looking at the guys I'm playing regularly . Going through all the hands they have showndown. Its quite an eye opener in terms of developing reads on a player when you see how he plays in known situations . And you see him playing the same way time after time.

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