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SHAKE
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08-09-2007, 02:04 AM
Post subject: 1-2 NL live, Decent players, i got2 pairs, damn, 3 pairs
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ok so toay im playing 1-2 nl at some crappy casino in WI.
I get dealt the power of 5 -2 in the BB and check a 4-way pot
flop comes
5 2 8
With 3 behind i decide to check and se what unfolds pot is 9 dollars (2+2+2+1+2)
Laggy but solid texan (hat and all) fires 10 and 2 folds back to me
Heres my analasys.
He cold have a large club j + Top pair with an A or a conector (this guy isnt reall playing K8 Q8.....Im 90% he dosent have a made fluh for 2 reaons
1. He raises sooted cards he plays pf
2. He slowplays big flops
I consider raising but i only have 80 behind so i call to see a turn.
8 wow it pretty much the single worst card in the deck for me
Board is 5 2 8 8
I decide i cant check as he will bet any 2 in that spot and probly bet big (pot or larger) so i fire 16, he raises to 35... hero??
(do you check here givin my reads and analasys? bet more et less or as played?)
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Fnord
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How deep is the money?
Turn is an easy Check/fold.
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SHAKE
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Originally Posted by Fnord
How deep is the money?
Turn is an easy Check/fold.
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i have 80 behind h has 200. Said i had 80 in og post. I figured i might ge him off the club. thats why i bet. No?
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BeeJall
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I'm definitely leading out on the flop or check raising here. If you think he might have a big club why are you letting him see a cheap turn? once the turn comes I wouldn't be putting anymore money in.
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TLR
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I would bet the flop, as played I check/fold the turn
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TLR
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BTW he could easily have a hand like 66,77,99
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SHAKE
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Originally Posted by BeeJall
I'm definitely leading out on the flop or check raising here. If you think he might have a big club why are you letting him see a cheap turn? once the turn comes I wouldn't be putting anymore money in.
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Because i have 80 beind, i i c/r the flop im commited no matter what comes on he turn
As far as leading i have player behind e an i cant realy stand a large raise, if i do, again im commited on the turn.
I diddnt checking as an option as i felt he would bet any 2 if i did, this way if he raiesim 99% sure im beat. If he calls then i can saly put him on a club.
no e cnt have a set, i stated b4 he had been lowplaying big flops.
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BeeJall
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Join Date: Feb 2005
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Originally Posted by SHAKE
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Originally Posted by BeeJall
I'm definitely leading out on the flop or check raising here. If you think he might have a big club why are you letting him see a cheap turn? once the turn comes I wouldn't be putting anymore money in.
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Because i have 80 beind, i i c/r the flop im commited no matter what comes on he turn
As far as leading i have player behind e an i cant realy stand a large raise, if i do, again im commited on the turn.
I diddnt checking as an option as i felt he would bet any 2 if i did, this way if he raiesim 99% sure im beat. If he calls then i can saly put him on a club.
no e cnt have a set, i stated b4 he had been lowplaying big flops. |
That's why I'm leading out instead of c/c, if there's a big raise behind you, I'd be happy to get it all in there at a 1/2 live game, there's so many hands they're calling with that you beat. That's just how i'm playing it so i don;t have a tougher decision on the turn.
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SHAKE
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Originally Posted by BeeJall
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Originally Posted by SHAKE
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Originally Posted by BeeJall
I'm definitely leading out on the flop or check raising here. If you think he might have a big club why are you letting him see a cheap turn? once the turn comes I wouldn't be putting anymore money in.
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Because i have 80 beind, i i c/r the flop im commited no matter what comes on he turn
As far as leading i have player behind e an i cant realy stand a large raise, if i do, again im commited on the turn.
I diddnt checking as an option as i felt he would bet any 2 if i did, this way if he raiesim 99% sure im beat. If he calls then i can saly put him on a club.
no e cnt have a set, i stated b4 he had been lowplaying big flops. |
That's why I'm leading out instead of c/c, if there's a big raise behind you, I'd be happy to get it all in there at a 1/2 live game, there's so many hands they're calling with that you beat. That's just how i'm playing it so i don;t have a tougher decision on the turn. |
Yeah, i mean i undrstand the arguement, the post you quoed was more of an explnation for wyi led the turn, not why i checked the flop.
I suppose after some poker stove, this is in fact, the correct mathmatical line. Its just pure ev. Unfortunatly i guess i out thouht myelf and tryed to take a "safer" route.
Any of you ever fall into that? Playing a ittle more passivly from OOP when there are potential big draws agist you hand?
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by SHAKE
I diddnt checking as an option as i felt he would bet any 2 if i did, this way if he raiesim 99% sure im beat.
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It doesn't matter, your hand went to crap you're out of position and it's not a very big pot. Betting the turn gets called by a lot of hands that have you drawing pretty much dead (as well as weak draws) as he probaby will wait for the river if he thinks he has a lock.
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SHAKE
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Originally Posted by Fnord
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Originally Posted by SHAKE
I diddnt checking as an option as i felt he would bet any 2 if i did, this way if he raiesim 99% sure im beat.
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It doesn't matter, your hand went to crap you're out of position and it's not a very big pot. Betting the turn gets called by a lot of hands that have you drawing pretty much dead (as well as weak draws) as he probaby will wait for the river if he thinks he has a lock. |
yeah i get it.
Whoops mistakerdoodle.
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