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    Default [spoonitnow strategy] Developing a Feel for Equities in NLHE Part 4: Turn Basics

    This is the fourth part in a series dealing with the key ideas that can be used to accelerate the process of gaining a feel for equities in different spots. In this week's edition, we're going to discuss some major cases for when the turn comes and how you can use these cases to make it easier to understand what your equity looks like on the turn.
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    Below the four criteria in your itemized list, you said we would consider "three" things.

    I always appreciate your articles, Jessie. No comments, but a few questions. How much of the ranges and combos do you have in your head during the hand? Are you able to keep track of this when several hands require attention at once?


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    yeah i suck at counting, so three = four

    As far as individual combos go, I don't think it's something you'll think about much in the middle of a hand in most situations. Instead, you'll just have a general feel for what's going on.

    Hope all is well with you and yours.
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    I know the study time you put in, so I figured the ranges/combos was something you develop a feel for. Follow up, though, when you're involved in several hands at once, can you keep track of the range width and combos on all the tables? What's your upper limit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robb View Post
    I know the study time you put in, so I figured the ranges/combos was something you develop a feel for. Follow up, though, when you're involved in several hands at once, can you keep track of the range width and combos on all the tables? What's your upper limit?

    My family is great, thanks. Life is good.
    I think a more practical piece of advice, though I realize this doesn't answer your question, would be to avoid scenarios where there are so many tables that you can't keep up with it.
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    Hi, I know its a bit late but I'm working myselfe through this material to get better in poker. First thx to spoonitnow for sharing this knowledge, you're the cause I registered here.


    I have two more general questions when reading this article:
    1) Where do you see the flush blockers in your estimation? Perhaps i don't get this blocking thing but I cannot see any cause we do not have suited spades in our range.
    As it turns out, we don’t have any flush draws left in our range because of the flop blockers, so that would make our range
    2) Is it really appropriated to look at situations like that with ranges for hero? When we decide what to do at the turn shouldn't we do the math for our actual hand.

    //EDIT
    Ok I see the blocker, 76, 89, 9T, QJ, KQ.
    Last edited by _b8r_; 05-22-2015 at 01:35 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by _b8r_ View Post
    Hi, I know its a bit late but I'm working myselfe through this material to get better in poker. First thx to spoonitnow for sharing this knowledge, you're the cause I registered here.


    I have two more general questions when reading this article:
    1) Where do you see the flush blockers in your estimation? Perhaps i don't get this blocking thing but I cannot see any cause we do not have suited spades in our range.


    2) Is it really appropriated to look at situations like that with ranges for hero? When we decide what to do at the turn shouldn't we do the math for our actual hand.

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    Ok I see the blocker, 76, 89, 9T, QJ, KQ.
    Hi and welcome to FTR. Let's see if I can answer your question. =)

    ...and Hero calls with {QQ-55, AQ, KQs-76s} on the button. The flop comes Qh9s6s.
    The AQ part of our range includes AsQs, and the KQs-76s part of our range includes KsQs, QsJs, JsTs, Ts9s, 9s8s, 8s7s and 7s6s before the flop comes. These are all of the spade flush draws that we can have.

    As Hero, let’s suppose that we would raise with sets, AsQs, KsQs, JsTs and 8s7s, so those aren’t in our turn calling range.
    I'm saying that we're raising with these hands because they're so strong. AsQs and KsQs have top pair plus a strong flush draw, and both JsTs and 8s7s have very strong straight + flush draws. It looks like I forgot to add QsJs by mistake because I would want that in my raising range as well for the top pair + FD reason.

    Because we're raising them on the flop, they are taken out of our flop calling range. This leaves Ts9s, 9s8s and 7s6s that we aren't raising. Ts9s and 9s8s aren't possible because of the 9s on the flop, and 7s6s isn't possible because of the 6s on the flop.

    The point of this example was to show that we actually don't have any flush draws when we call on the flop, so if we call and a spade hits on the turn, we could have a hard time representing a flush.

    I hope that helps. =)

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